# I pit teenage baby shooters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 22, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695 "2013-03-22T23:48:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/61 "2013-03-26T17:19:10Z")

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^^^ Maybe the Lord actually did.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. More shots could have been fired…but they weren’t.

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**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/62 "2013-03-26T17:29:17Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Maybe the Lord actually did.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. More shots could have been fired…but they weren’t.

I’ll admit it. I LOLed.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/63 "2013-03-26T17:32:10Z")

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> [@Bouncer](#):
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> To me, the most staggering thing is that the way they figured out who the shooters might be was to check attendance records at school. It just boggles my mind for some reason.
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> “Oh we had a deliberate murder at point blank range of an infant in a stroller? …Call the junior high!”

When they have an eyewitness who places the shooters’ age range within junior high years, why not? You seem to think that they just made a blind assumption and it paid off. Remember, there was a direct eyewitness.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/64 "2013-03-26T17:47:28Z")

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> [@MegaBee](#):
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> I’ll admit it. I LOLed.

Why? Would you rather every victim be a dead victim?  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/65 "2013-03-26T17:50:55Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Why? Would you rather every victim be a dead victim?  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

I’d rather none of them be victims.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/66 "2013-03-26T18:01:24Z")

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^^^ But if anyone has to be a victim, would you rather them be alive or dead?  
God bless you and those who are still here always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/67 "2013-03-26T18:06:35Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Maybe the Lord actually did.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. More shots could have been fired…but they weren’t.

If they were twice as dead then I’d be twice as sad.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/68 "2013-03-26T18:10:31Z")

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^^^ One victim is still here, aren’t they? If yes, then that shows that more shots could have been fired, but they were not. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/69 "2013-03-26T18:45:09Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ One victim is still here, aren’t they? If yes, then that shows that more shots could have been fired, but they were not. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

If your God had a hundredth of the power or benevolence ascribed to him, there’d be NO victims. Either he’s cruel or he’s weak or he doesn’t exist, and you’re frantically engaging in cargo-cult activity trying desperately to prove your shameful excuse for an existence has any meaning beyond your own failed attempts to create same by latching onto a fourth-rate country/rock singer with a fifth-rate lyricist.

Playing some kind of pansy game of “oh it COULD have been worse, PRAISE THE JEEBUS SO FUZZY HUGGY MUCH” just demeans you AND your God.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/70 "2013-03-26T18:53:08Z")

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^^^ Only the Lord can explain why things happen and if you want to know badly enough, there is only way to make all of that happen. You go by his word, you make it to his place when your time down here is done, and then **every** question that you have ever had will **finally** be answered. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/71 "2013-03-26T18:59:03Z")

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And there it is. The “God works in mysterious ways” cop out.

Thanks for playing.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/72 "2013-03-26T19:04:05Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Only the Lord can explain why things happen and if you want to know badly enough, there is only way to make all of that happen. You go by his word, you make it to his place when your time down here is done, and then **every** question that you have ever had will **finally** be answered. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

You’re not as bad as the shooter, but you’re damn near as emotionally harmful. Think about THAT, asshole–you’re taking someone else’s tragedy and using it as an excuse to chirrup about “The Lord” instead of extending some actual sympathy and concern.

You should pay more attention to Matthew 6:6 and less to your own egotistical need to prattle endlessly about the person who gave you the instructions in Matthew 6:6.

For that matter, as much as your unthinking bullshit drives people away from the church, maybe you should also take Luke 17:2 to heart.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/73 "2013-03-26T19:07:07Z")

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God lets babies get shot in the face so we can, um, er…appreciate that not _all_ babies get shot in the face! Praise Jaysus!

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/74 "2013-03-26T19:15:00Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> You’re not as bad as the shooter, but you’re damn near as emotionally harmful. Think about THAT, asshole–you’re taking someone else’s tragedy and using it as an excuse to chirrup about “The Lord” instead of extending some actual sympathy and concern.
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> You should pay more attention to Matthew 6:6 and less to your own egotistical need to prattle endlessly about the person who gave you the instructions in Matthew 6:6.
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> For that matter, as much as your unthinking bullshit drives people away from the church, maybe you should also take Luke 17:2 to heart.

Like I said, if you make it to his place, all of your questions will be answered. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/75 "2013-03-26T19:20:09Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Like I said, if you make it to his place, all of your questions will be answered. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Yep, you’re objectively a terrible Christian who does things Jesus specifically said not to do. I know what the answer to YOUR questions is going to be :):):):):):):):):):):):):)🙂

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/76 "2013-03-26T19:22:21Z")

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Well, to be fair, God thought that baby had it coming.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/77 "2013-03-26T19:23:11Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Yep, you’re objectively a terrible Christian who does things Jesus specifically said not to do. I know what the answer to YOUR questions is going to be :):):):):):):):):):):):):)🙂

There is no way that you can know what the answers to my questions are because you don’t know what the questions that I have are. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Sacrilegium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Sacrilegium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sacrilegium)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/78 "2013-03-26T19:25:07Z")

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There once was a poster named Holly  
She believed in a God, by golly  
She asserted as fact  
Things decidedly whacked  
O, but it made for such folly

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/79 "2013-03-26T19:31:28Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Gun buyback schemes have had some degree of success both in the US and in Australia (where in 1996, after the Port Arthur massacre, the government outlawed certain categories of firearms and mandated they be turned in for cash compensation).

You seem completely unaware of the scope of the issue in the US. The information you read here just refuses to sink in and be processed. Your Australian buy back took in about 600,000 guns in 1996 and another 50,000 hand guns in 2003.

The last time Congress attempted to estimate how many guns are in the US was in 2009, four years ago, and came up with an estimate of 310 Million guns. NICS background checks, which are only done at the time of sale, are still proceeding at a brisk pace, 2.5 Million just in January of this year. One month. And all of these checks represent probable sales.

All of the guns collected in Australia represent only a couple of weeks of gun sales in the US.

Reducing the number of guns in a given community as a solution? You mean like Chicago has done? That’s some funny stuff.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-teenage-baby-shooters/653695/80 "2013-03-26T20:02:36Z")

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> [@Sacrilegium](#):
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> Has no one considered the possibility that these two assailants were time travelers from the future? Perhaps that baby would have grown up to be another Hitler, but ten times worse. Perhaps there was a large scale debate among the time travelers board over whether or not to intervene, and this was their first ever breach of the non-interference policy that has kept them out of meddling with history thus far. Not even Hitler was a big enough nuisance to warrant interference. But THIS baby? This baby was bad news.
> 
> The two teens incarcerated over the event would’ve gone on to be minor generals in SuperHitler Army. They were just framed by the time travelers here to both cover their tracks and to ensure that their evil minds were kept out of power. The mom herself said the kids who did it didn’t look that old.

That’s the kind of nutty I was looking for.

> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> [Three months ago, my stance remains unchanged, whether it’s Sandy Hook or two teenagers in Georgia.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15810909&postcount=104)
> 
> Mental Health issues cannot be solved by gun bans.

But mental health issues can be addressed by mental health treatment, which we do a piss poor job of in this country.

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