# I pit that stupid voter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738 "2004-09-16T21:21:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrTuffPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MrTuffPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrTuffPaws)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/21 "2004-09-17T02:36:07Z")

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Here is another

[http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPresMatch2004/quiz\_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y](http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPresMatch2004/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y)

Maud’Dib,

I am pretty much safe to say that you are a one issue vote, and that one issue is being abortion. Have you ever voted for a pro-choice candidate?

Anyway, I more concerned about her not even considering the test as a gateway to political self evaluation. Tests like the one above should not dictate who you should vote for, but they should at least make you think why you are voting for someone in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/22 "2004-09-17T03:35:10Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I just went to the screen there where it compares candidates side by side: [http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5|10|](http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5%7C10%7C)  
> and under “Served In The Military” it says “no” under Bush.
> 
> I don’t think anybody disputes that he served at least some time in the military… Did they mean combat, I wonder?

No, they probably mean active duty – while the reserves are military, reservists do not have the full-time commitment of regular troops, and are usually less likely to face combat.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/23 "2004-09-18T15:00:02Z")

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> [@Muad'Dib](#):
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> Anarchist party?

Nah, they would be Chaotic Good.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/24 "2004-09-18T16:54:02Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I just went to the screen there where it compares candidates side by side: [http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5|10|](http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5%7C10%7C)  
> and under “Served In The Military” it says “no” under Bush.
> 
> I don’t think anybody disputes that he served at least some time in the military… Did they mean combat, I wonder?

The National Guard in Bush’s day was just a Boy Scouts program for adult rich kids. It really shouldn’t have counted as miitary service.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/25 "2004-09-18T16:55:14Z")

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I took the test. Said I should vote for Cthulhu. Who knew?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/26 "2004-09-18T17:20:39Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Chaotic Evil? Then your choice is clear… :evil grin:

Perot as a write-in?

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/27 "2004-09-18T18:31:51Z")

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> [@MrTuffPaws](#):
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> Here is another
> 
> [VoteMatch Quiz - Coming Soon](http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPresMatch2004/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y)
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> Maud’Dib,
> 
> I am pretty much safe to say that you are a one issue vote, and that one issue is being abortion. Have you ever voted for a pro-choice candidate?
> 
> Anyway, I more concerned about her not even considering the test as a gateway to political self evaluation. Tests like the one above should not dictate who you should vote for, but they should at least make you think why you are voting for someone in the first place.

Yes, I voted for Arnold, but in primaries, supporting abortion rights makes it _extremely_ unlikely that I will vote for you.

I consider myself Conservative-Libertarian, I may not like what you do, but if you aren’t bothering anyone you have every right to do it. I would have to look at the test again, but I think that there must have been a few options heavily weighted because of that, such as gay marriage and such.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/28 "2004-09-18T18:41:18Z")

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> [@Amp](#):
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> Ask and you shall receive:
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> [http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main](http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main)

Seems I’m very slightly in favour of Bush.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/29 "2004-09-18T18:48:41Z")

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> [@MrTuffPaws](#):
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> Here is another
> 
> [VoteMatch Quiz - Coming Soon](http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPresMatch2004/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y)

And in this one Peroutka ties with Bush, but both with a low percentage.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/30 "2004-09-18T20:45:16Z")

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Hmmm…59% Kerry, 27% Bush. That being pro-life and pro-vouchers trips me up every time 😉

Interesting test.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/31 "2004-09-19T03:16:07Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> I just took a test to see if I was still Neutral Good, but it turns out that I’m Chaotic Evil.
> 
> So now I’m conflicted. Do I vote for Bush or Nader?

You don’t vote for any candidates at ALL, silly. You’re supposed to rob everyone there, loot the place, and then set fire to it. That’s how a true Chaotic Evil person votes, with his actions!

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/32 "2004-09-19T03:50:38Z")

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Yo! Undecided voters? [Larry David has your number](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/16/opinion/16david.html).

> [@](#):
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> The truth is, Undecideds, you’re getting on our nerves. We Decideds hate all the attention you’re getting and that you’re jerking us around. Anyone who can’t make up his or her mind at this point in the campaign should forget about the election entirely, buy a pint of ice cream and get into bed.
> 
> We’d love to tell you to take a hike, but we’re afraid to alienate you. If we really had any brains, we wouldn’t spend another second on you, but on the people who can truly make a difference: the “unlikely” voters. And there are millions more of them than there are of you. Those people aren’t after attention, they’re just incredibly lazy. The only way they’ll register to vote is if someone shows up at their door with a form. And then the only way they’ll actually vote is if you carry them to the booth.

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/33 "2004-09-19T12:20:32Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> The National Guard in Bush’s day was just a Boy Scouts program for adult rich kids. It really shouldn’t have counted as miitary service.

My uncle was in the Guard circa '68, and he a mill worker’s son with no connections whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/34 "2004-09-19T14:51:13Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I just went to the screen there where it compares candidates side by side: [http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5|10|](http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compare.jsp2?idlist=5%7C10%7C)  
> and under “Served In The Military” it says “no” under Bush.

Strange. It didn’t use to say that; I’m sure. Must have been changed the last couple of weeks or so.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/35 "2004-09-19T15:09:56Z")

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Oh Joe Lieberman, where have you gone? 60% for him, 48% for Bush and only 30% for Kerry. I must be in some strange demographic.

One question I didn’t like was the energy one, I want to increase nuclear energy but decrease coal and oil dependancy. So I just put no opinion.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/36 "2004-09-19T15:17:56Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> Strange. It didn’t use to say that; I’m sure. Must have been changed the last couple of weeks or so.

Yeah, I went to that site several times before, and I’m sure I would have noticed it.

There’s other problems with page too, the headers of the issues are off.

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**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/37 "2004-09-20T07:55:23Z")

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My fear is that there are some out there who really believe that by being a “registered Republican” or “registered Democrat”, that they may only cast their ballots for candidates of _that_ particular party.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/38 "2004-09-20T16:31:09Z")

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> [@sugaree](#):
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> My uncle was in the Guard circa '68, and he a mill worker’s son with no connections whatsoever.

Exception that proves the rule.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/39 "2004-09-20T16:40:27Z")

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> [@Podkayne](#):
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> Cthulhu for President: Why Vote for the _Lesser_ of Two Evils?

I don’t actually laugh out loud very often at work.

Thanks - now my coworkers are wondering what got me to laugh.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-that-stupid-voter/264738/40 "2004-09-20T16:46:12Z")

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> [@Amp](#):
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> Ask and you shall receive:
> 
> [http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main](http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main)

Huh. I got a 50% match with Bush, and a 46% match with Kerry.

I think when I took this test in 2000 (or one very similar) it had all the 3rd party candidates on it as well. I wonder why they didn’t do that this time?

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