# I pit the American PR arm of ISIS and murderous Muslim Radicals.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [June 20, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912 "2016-06-20T19:55:05Z")
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/1 "2016-06-20T19:55:05Z")
[It’s called The White House.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/20/benghazi-orlando-transcripts-loretta-lynchs-partisan-agenda/)
What a bunch of short-sighted douchebag apologists.
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### Author:  [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/2 "2016-06-20T20:08:54Z")
From [Florida Statute 365.171](http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0365/Sections/0365.171.html), Subsection 12 (in part):
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> The exemption [to releasing information from a 911 call] applies only to the name, address, telephone number or personal information about, or information which may identify any person requesting emergency services or reporting an emergency while such information is in the custody of the public agency or public safety agency providing emergency services.
I would say the transcripts have to be released in their entirety … less the info above.
ETA: [Florida State Constitution](https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Constitution#A1S24), Article 1, Section 24, subsection (a):
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> (a) Every person has the right to inspect or copy any public record made or received in connection with the official business of any public body, officer, or employee of the state, or persons acting on their behalf, except with respect to records exempted pursuant to this section or specifically made confidential by this Constitution. This section specifically includes the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government and each agency or department created thereunder; counties, municipalities, and districts; and each constitutional officer, board, and commission, or entity created pursuant to law or this Constitution.
I’m assuming you’ll not be voting Democrat this Fall?
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/3 "2016-06-20T20:10:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [It’s called The White House.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/20/benghazi-orlando-transcripts-loretta-lynchs-partisan-agenda/)
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> What a bunch of short-sighted douchebag apologists.
Got anything _not_ from [a paranoid right-wing mouthpiece](http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/20/obamas-edited-mateen-transcript-huge-propaganda-victory-isis/)?
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/4 "2016-06-20T20:19:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Got anything _not_ from [a paranoid right-wing mouthpiece](http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/20/obamas-edited-mateen-transcript-huge-propaganda-victory-isis/)?
If you have information indicating that the information is incorrect and the transcript will, in fact, include references to Allah, etc., you’re free to provide that information.
Or has not Allah given you the wisdom to know how to do so?
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/5 "2016-06-20T20:22:27Z")
May the blessed Baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your mind.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/6 "2016-06-20T20:27:09Z")
For what it’s worth, the DoJ has apparently [reversed](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/20/fbi-release-orlando-911-transcripts/86130520/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-uBpW9Vr3ijG1OTbG9f0QFg) the mind-bogglingly stupid decision.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/7 "2016-06-20T20:29:20Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> For what it’s worth, the DoJ has apparently [reversed](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/20/fbi-release-orlando-911-transcripts/86130520/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-uBpW9Vr3ijG1OTbG9f0QFg) the mind-bogglingly stupid decision.
Good. That decision was, as you so aptly put it, mind-bogglingly stupid.
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/8 "2016-06-20T20:35:21Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> For what it’s worth, the DoJ has apparently [reversed](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/20/fbi-release-orlando-911-transcripts/86130520/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-uBpW9Vr3ijG1OTbG9f0QFg) the mind-bogglingly stupid decision.
Great news. A good day for sane Americans; a bad day for the Ministry of Propaganda.
But we should all take note that the mindset that dreamed up that stupidity, and it’s defense, is a dangerous open in and of itself.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/9 "2016-06-20T20:37:15Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Got anything _not_ from [a paranoid right-wing mouthpiece](http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/20/obamas-edited-mateen-transcript-huge-propaganda-victory-isis/)?
[Here’s another account](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/) from that notorious paranoid right-wing mouthpiece, CNN:
_“The transcript also shows Mateen spoke to the dispatcher in Arabic and that he pledged allegiance to an organization and an individual during the call, but the transcript does not include those names…
CNN has previously reported that Mateen pledged allegiance to ISIS during a 911 call from the gay nightclub, according to a U.S. official…
White House spokesman Josh Earnest defended the decision (to redact part of the transcript).
“The decision about the release of the transcripts is one that was made solely by the Department of Justice and the FBI officials. They’re doing that consistent with their assessment about the best way to advance the investigation,” he said.
Authorities also defended the decision, saying it was meant to avoid lending credence to terrorist leaders.
“We’re not going to propagate their rhetoric, their violent rhetoric,” FBI Special Agent Ron Hopper said.”_
Uh, maybe we should hear that violent rhetoric to get a better idea what we’re up against?
Good to see that the whole transcript will now be released, even if the government had to be embarrassed into doing it.
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### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/10 "2016-06-20T20:46:25Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [It’s called The White House.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/20/benghazi-orlando-transcripts-loretta-lynchs-partisan-agenda/)
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> What a bunch of short-sighted douchebag apologists.
You don’t have to keep proving that you are an idiot. We get it already.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/11 "2016-06-20T20:47:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> May the blessed Baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your mind.
Excuse me, but as a minister of an anti-terrorist sect (aka Zen Lutherans), I’d like to point out that while the Baby Jesus is sufficient to shut the mouths of most mortals, the Willfully Closed-Minded require bringing out the big guns.
Let us pray: "Dear _All Grown Up Jesus…"_
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/12 "2016-06-20T21:13:50Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> If you have information indicating that the information is incorrect and the transcript will, in fact, include references to Allah, etc., you’re free to provide that information.
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> Or has not Allah given you the wisdom to know how to do so?
The transcript is not the issue. Breitbart blindly supporting Trump and using the transcript to monger fear is the issue.
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### Author:  [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/13 "2016-06-20T21:18:36Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [It’s called The White House.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/20/benghazi-orlando-transcripts-loretta-lynchs-partisan-agenda/)
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> What a bunch of short-sighted douchebag apologists.
Martyrdom statements are ISIL’s most potent recruiting and propaganda weapon, so of course the conservative whackadoos want to give it to them. It would be a shame if ISIL died on the vine before anybody got to have a wargasm over it.
I used to know this mentally challenged person who had this sensory stimulation thing about hearing the word “hambone.” He would bug people to say it over and over. I think you Repubs have the same issue with the phrase “radical Islam”. We need to set up a 900 number and make some money off this thing.
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### Author:  [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/14 "2016-06-20T21:26:32Z")
Craven cowardice of the PC Left.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/15 "2016-06-20T21:29:09Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Martyrdom statements are ISIL’s most potent recruiting and propaganda weapon, so of course the conservative whackadoos want to give it to them. It would be a shame if ISIL died on the vine before anybody got to have a wargasm over it.
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> I used to know this mentally challenged person who had this sensory stimulation thing about hearing the word “hambone.” He would bug people to say it over and over. I think you Repubs have the same issue with the phrase “radical Islam”. We need to set up a 900 number and make some money off this thing.
Originally posted nearly two years ago, sadly still appropriate:
> [@ISIS under our beds?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/isis-under-our-beds/696533/60):
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> ISIS, ISIS, in our heads.
> ISIS, ISIS, below our beds.
> ISIS, ISIS, in the trees.
> ISIS, ISIS, in twos and threes.
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### Author:  [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/16 "2016-06-20T21:36:08Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Martyrdom statements are ISIL’s most potent recruiting and propaganda weapon, so of course the conservative whackadoos want to give it to them. It would be a shame if ISIL died on the vine before anybody got to have a wargasm over it.
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> I used to know this mentally challenged person who had this sensory stimulation thing about hearing the word “hambone.” He would bug people to say it over and over. I think you Repubs have the same issue with the phrase “radical Islam”. We need to set up a 900 number and make some money off this thing.
Or you grow testicles and relay to the public accurate information.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/17 "2016-06-20T21:36:11Z")
Jesus H. Christ, people. It was a stupid decision, that’s all. It doesn’t need to be attacked as Obama being the PR voice of ISIS, and it doesn’t need to be defended as if the right wing will win the internets otherwise. Fuck!
It was just a stupid decision that was wrong and has been reversed. That’s all. It’s not the end of the fucking world.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/18 "2016-06-20T21:54:58Z")
> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Craven cowardice of the PC Left.
Yeah! And those lily-livered pussies wouldn’t even dig their heels in, when called on it.
The only thing more abhorrent to God-fearin’, right-leanin’ Americans than making a bad decision is reversing a bad decision. Buncha wishy-washy poltroons, never heard of “staying the course.”
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### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/19 "2016-06-20T21:56:22Z")
Meanwhile in an alternate universe in which the whitehouse **did** release all of the shooters ramblings to 911.
[QUOTE=Alternate universe magellan01]
It’s called the white house
What a bunch of short-sighted douchebag propagandists.
[/QUOTE]
With the link going to a Breitbart website complaining the Obama administration was promoting the shooters agenda by publicizing his statements.
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### Author:  [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-american-pr-arm-of-isis-and-murderous-muslim-radicals/757912/20 "2016-06-20T21:58:46Z")
More proof of Obamas incompetence. Thank goodness he won’t be around to screw up the country for much longer.
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