# I pit the anti-Trader-Joe's petition

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [July 20, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844 "2020-07-20T15:38:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Mickyfinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@Mickyfinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mickyfinn)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/61 "2020-07-21T14:59:44Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> they’re just a cutesy kitchy variance on the Trader Joe brand.

There are plenty of examples of some adperson coming up with some ideas that everyone sees as clever/just fine all the way through the process but end up being really bad in practice. I think that is what we have here.

I remember hearing an airline sending letters to business class flyers thanking them for being their wives on business trips. Good idea until wives of the executives saw the letters and remembered they didn’t accompany their husbands on the trips. Oops.

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### Author: ![Mickyfinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@Mickyfinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mickyfinn)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/62 "2020-07-21T20:18:34Z")

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Bringing not being

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### Author: ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/63 "2020-07-21T21:06:18Z")

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I don’t care about ‘Le Choy’ 'cause it doesn’t actually exist.  
La Choy on the other hand,

> **Ilhan New** {…} was born in 1895 in Pyongyang {Korea} among nine brothers and sisters, and emigrated to the United States at the age of 9. In America he gained a degree from the University of Michigan and founded La Choy Foods in 1920. {…}

CMC

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### Author: ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/64 "2020-07-21T22:42:46Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> We all have our lines where we say this side is OK and this side isn’t. I’m a pretty liberal guy and I strive to be open-minded about new things, aware of micro-aggressions, and working to rid myself of whatever remaining racism I have from my youth.
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> In this case, I think the objections are overblown. Trader Joe’s certainly wasn’t racist in intent, and I don’t think they were racist or even insensitive in practice. Trader Ming’s, for example, wasn’t saying that Chinese Americans aren’t fully American or anything like that – it’s meant to represent food from China, not food that Chinese Americans eat. The Chinese Americans I know eat things like hamburgers, pasta, Greek food, sushi, salads, etc. They probably even eat Chinese take-out, although we didn’t have one near my work so I didn’t see it.
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> I won’t boycott TJs if they change the names – they can call their product whatever they want. I also won’t boycott them if they don’t, because I disagree what these names are offensive.

If it helps any, Trader Joe’s employees were the ones who originally brought it up to corporate that the packaging in question was problematical verging on racially offensive and ask that it be phased out. The company was already in the process of getting rid of the dodgy packaging already before the petition started based on the feedback from employees and they just accelerated the process by telling their partner companies who actually make the products to get rid of any old packaging materials and labels in favor of straight “Trader Joe’s” branding materials. Source–daughter works for the company.

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/65 "2020-07-22T01:24:17Z")

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Fine with me if they want to change it. I will go to TJs as often as I do now (about once/week, probably).

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### Author: ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/66 "2020-07-22T02:28:04Z")

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Yeah, it’d take a special sort of dumb to write off TJ’s because you think they’re too “politically correct.” I mean, my gods, the Greek feta salad dressing alone…!

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### Author: ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/67 "2020-07-22T02:46:08Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Yeah, it’d take a special sort of dumb to write off TJ’s because you think they’re too “politically correct.” I mean, my gods, the Greek feta salad dressing alone…!&nbsp;

You mean the Trader Demitrius feta salad dressing?

(joke!)

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### Author: ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/68 "2020-07-22T03:33:58Z")

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Why I oughta!!!

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### Author: ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/69 "2020-07-22T14:07:23Z")

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I’m offended by the ‘Trader’ part.

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/70 "2020-08-01T02:23:02Z")

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Trader Joe’s says no way, Trader José to the name change.

> **[Trader Joe's Says No to Changing Ethnic-Sounding Label Names](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trader-joes-says-no-to-changing-ethnic-sounding-label-names/2406110/?amp)**
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> Trader Joe’s, which indicated earlier this month it might change the names of some of its products after an online petition denounced them as racist, now says it will stick with labels like Trader Jose’s and Trader Ming’s for Mexican and Asian food....

Is anyone else seeing a video about _sea spiders_ in the middle of that article for some reason?

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### Author: ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/71 "2020-08-01T02:25:45Z")

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Yes, I see the sea spiders video.

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/72 "2020-08-01T05:49:44Z")

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Kind of weird choice. Promoted viedos tend to be at least _somewhat_ related to the topic of the article you are reading.

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### Author: ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/73 "2020-08-01T09:54:24Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Also, I’m not sure about “don’t really have a dog in this fight”. That’s equivalent to saying white people shouldn’t start or get involved in BLM protests. That’s a questionable stance.

I think there’s a pretty big difference between supporting/getting involved in an existing movement started by the aggrieved party, and a privileged white high school kid picking a public fight because she felt entitled to be offended on behalf of other people (who she very likely didn’t even consult.)

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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/74 "2020-08-01T10:45:16Z")

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Maybe Trader Joe’s is going to be selling sea spiders?

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### Author: ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/75 "2020-08-01T10:45:43Z")

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Depends. What’s spider-ese for “Joe”?

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/76 "2020-08-01T10:48:24Z")

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Trader Neptune’s Sea Monkeys.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/77 "2020-08-01T11:12:42Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Trader Neptune’s Sea Monkeys. -

They only sell Sea Monkey sides. You’re on your own to find a butcher or do it yourself, if you’re so inclined.

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### Author: ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/78 "2020-08-02T02:28:40Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Maybe Trader Joe’s is going to be selling sea spiders?

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Depends. What’s spider-ese for “Joe”?

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Trader Neptune’s Sea Monkeys.

They do sell lobster gummies. So, Trader Neptune’s sea monkeys?

> **[Trader Joe's Just The Lobsters Gummies Are The Perfect Vegan Snack For Summer](https://www.bustle.com/p/trader-joes-just-the-lobsters-gummies-are-the-perfect-vegan-snack-for-summer-22992994)**
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> Candy fiends, assemble! You’ll want to make room in your candy drawer — we all have a candy drawer, right? — because Trader Joe’s new gummy lobsters are here. They’re lobsters! They’re gummies! They are almost too cute to eat... almost.
> Last summer,…

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### Author: ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/79 "2020-08-02T03:38:42Z")

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Doesn’t this shit trigger you, you fucking worthless bitch?

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-anti-trader-joes-petition/915844/80 "2020-08-02T04:17:38Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> Doesn’t this shit trigger you, you fucking worthless bitch

No, too long, and it doesn’t fit their naming pattern.

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