# I pit the Chinese ethos re sex

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 8, 2005, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424 "2005-06-08T07:58:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/41 "2005-06-09T19:29:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You’ve “heard” about them, too, huh? 🙂

Nudge nudge wink wink saynomore… 😉

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Actually, I was wondering about actual couples who, ah, need some relief - where can they get any privacy for themselves? Just ask the rest of the family to leave the flat for an hour or so?

You don’t need _that_ much room. People in tight (heh) circumstances can make do with what little they have.

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**Author:** ![caveman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caveman/32/7242_2.png) [@caveman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caveman)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/42 "2005-06-09T20:54:33Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> :o Uh, yeah, that’d be us. (Hinduism)

😃 Actually, I was thinking of Shinto (?) when I mentioned that; I seem to recall a penis temple somewhere in Japan. But, y’know, the more oversized revered genitals about, the better, I suppose.

Interesting analysis on how the reversal in women’s rights came about, too. Western culture seems to be protected fom such a reversal (via exaggerated notions of female purity) by the existance of Paris Hilton.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/43 "2005-06-10T04:19:57Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Not all of Asia is that prude. Japanese are prudes about some things and very non-chalant about others.

But PLEASE tell the birds in the porno flicks to stop their damned vocalisings (not moans, not groans, mre like continuous ‘uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh’). And could they (the Japs in general) lose the pantie fetish while they’re at it. Every damn time you got to have the rub-the-fabric-of-the-knickers foreplay, with the girl going ‘uh-uh-uh-uh’ in the background, looking and sounding as if she’s constipated. You know, I’ve given up on Japoporn. Even American clank-clank-clank “here I come on my high heels” clank-clank “Oh yeah, fuck me” look-in-the-camera "Oh, yeah, harder!’ stuff is better than that.

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> In the case of HK, I’m guessing Victorian England was one of the chief influences.

If only. The Chinks haven’t taken a blind bit of notice of our great culture. Hardly any of 'em play cricket, they refuse to sit down calmly while the host cooks the food on a barbecue, they queue jump as if it’s going out of fashion…

Incidentally, most married couples have a room of their own, with some walls and a door fully equipped with a lock, even if they live with ma and pa.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/44 "2005-06-10T04:39:21Z")

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Am I the only one who’d like to see a Comparative Porn course next to a Comparative Lit course?

Okay, never mind then 😃

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/45 "2005-06-10T05:33:22Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Am I the only one who’d like to see a Comparative Porn course next to a Comparative Lit course?

I’m in 😃

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/46 "2005-06-10T06:04:42Z")

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> [@Rick](#):
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> I’m in 😃

Like Flynn?

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/47 "2005-06-10T09:29:47Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> The Chinks haven’t taken a blind bit of notice of our great culture. Hardly any of 'em play cricket, they refuse to sit down calmly while the host cooks the food on a barbecue, they queue jump as if it’s going out of fashion…

I know it’s only in jest but could I ask that you be a trifle more circumspect in using this sort of language.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/48 "2005-06-10T10:08:32Z")

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> [@Ellis Dee](#):
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> Well, kinda, yeah. It’s similar to the difference between showing a motorcycle jumping the grand canyon, or a kid on a bike jumping a homemade 5-foot ramp over a pit he poured gasoline in and lit.
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> Which do you think would be more “dangerous” for the general public to watch?
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> (I’ve never seen the latter depicted in film, but it was a fun personal pastime in my misspent youth.)

I can’t see how either can be compared to sex at all. As far as how dangerous they are…hmmmm both re probably dangerous to idiots. Should we just ban idiots from watching tv?

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> I disagree with the prudish attitude about sex adopted by the FCC, and see no harm in depictions of sex, but I do understand _why_ people get uptight about sex moreso than violence. It makes perfect sense to me, despite the fact that I disagree with the underlying premise. (Sex is bad.)

From your examples I still can’t see why, infact they make it less clear. I would rather my child saw sex on tv and thought it was a good idea, then either of your 2 wheeled examples.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/49 "2005-06-10T13:10:16Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> I can’t see how either can be compared to sex at all. As far as how dangerous they are…hmmmm both re probably dangerous to idiots. Should we just ban idiots from watching tv?

Really? The average idiot kid can assemble the resources to attempt a motorcycle jump of the grand canyon just as easily as a homemade jump in their backyard?

As far as banning idiots from watching tv, based on the ratings, I’d say the tv audience is almost exclusively idiots.

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> From your examples I still can’t see why, infact they make it less clear. I would rather my child saw sex on tv and thought it was a good idea, then either of your 2 wheeled examples.

Yes, so would I. But not everybody thinks as we do. The FCC, in particular, holds a completely different stance. Most in power consider sex bad, and try to discourage sex by any means necessary, such as abstinence-only sex ed and covering nude statues. They apparently feel that the temptation is so great to have sex that showing a nipple will drive people into a frothing sexual frenzy.

The end result is that they restrict access to any material that might tempt people into activities they deem bad.

Were you really unable to piece this together by what I wrote?

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/50 "2005-06-10T17:41:37Z")

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> [@Sevastopol](#):
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> I know it’s only in jest but could I ask that you be a trifle more circumspect in using this sort of language.

The mention of cricket or his use of “Chink” and “Jap?” At least they are more specific than generic terms like…well, you can fill in THAT blank on your own.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/51 "2005-06-11T23:13:39Z")

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Completely unrelated to Prudish Asian Types but it is in the ball park of Sexual Weirdness.

Somewhere in Paris or therebouts is a cemetary that holds a grave /sarcophogus thingie of the physical likeness of the deceased in the laying state. Apparently the man seems rather well packaged and over the years…he has gotten plenty of free rides, if you know what I mean. and I think you do.

Some one help me out.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/52 "2005-06-11T23:17:14Z")

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Okay… I’m a modern libertine…

But **wtf**???

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/53 "2005-06-12T00:22:18Z")

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I’ve been searching Find a Grave for the past hour and am coming up with nothing. This is driving me nuts.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/54 "2005-06-12T01:16:14Z")

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Cool it with the “Jap and Chinks”, **Roger**. If were aiming toward satire, you missed.

TVeblen

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/55 "2005-06-12T01:52:44Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Am I the only one who’d like to see a Comparative Porn course next to a Comparative Lit course?

I’m in too. Heck, I’ll even put the menus on your DVDs. 😃

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/56 "2005-06-12T02:09:39Z")

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[Found it!](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3975607.stm) Victor Noir, you sly dog you.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/57 "2005-06-12T02:12:36Z")

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> [@Thudlow Boink](#):
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> There are few activities more normal or everyday or morally neutral than taking a dump, but I have yet to see this depicted explicitly in any movie not involving Cartman’s mom—nor do I want to, nor do I expect to.

You haven’t seen the Acadamy Award winning movie Sideways yet?

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/58 "2005-06-13T00:37:00Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Cool it with the “Jap and Chinks”, **Roger**. If were aiming toward satire, you missed.

No problem. I assume ‘Canucks’, ‘Frogs’, ‘Itis’ and ‘Polacks’ are off limits too? Yanks and Limeys okay?

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/59 "2005-06-13T00:39:39Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> If were aiming toward satire, you missed.

You’re quite entitled to your own opinion, such judgements being, of course, a matter of opinion.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-chinese-ethos-re-sex/307424/60 "2005-06-13T02:10:37Z")

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I lived in Japan for 7 years and think that the Japanese are quite relaxed about sex as a topic - using prostitutes or ‘love hotels’, buying condoms and looking at porn is all quite ho-hum. However, parents still tend to want their daughters to stay virginal.  
Sex is not taught at school. Having an abortion is not seen as such a big deal as it would be in many western countries. In casual conversations I have had, it was quite common for most of the women to have had one or two abortions.  
In my experience, the Japanese enjoy titilation far more than actual sex.  
I have never lived in China or HongKong, but get the impression that they are a little more prudy about sex than the Japanese - we have a large number of Chinese students here and a large number end up with STDs and/or unwanted prenancies. I’m not sure if this is due to being free from parental control and ignorance regarding sex or if they would have the same issues back in China. Many Chinese boys are very interested in downloading free porn - as I’m guessing it is not so readily available in China.

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