# I pit the Coca-Cola company **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224 "2007-02-07T17:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/41 "2007-02-08T01:52:23Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] Carbonated water, aka club soda. I make soda at work all the time. What do you suppose they _could_ mix it with? All the flavor is in the syrup. [/QUOTE] True about the flavor, but Coke seems so much fizzier than plain club soda, at least to me, so I thought maybe there was a different type of carbonation or something. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/42 "2007-02-08T01:55:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] True about the flavor, but Coke seems so much fizzier than plain club soda, at least to me, so I thought maybe there was a different type of carbonation or something. [/QUOTE] Carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide. But I bet the ingredients in Coke syrup provide far more nucleation sites than plain water, leading to increased fizzyness as the CO[sub]2[/sub] bubbles out faster. ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/43 "2007-02-08T02:24:14Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Hee hee…am I batshit crazy for being a conservative, or for liking fountain Coke? And are the two linked somehow??? I am also what you might call a Coke fancier…I avoid Pepsi if I possibly can! I completely agree that a Coke that is mixed wrong is the worst…but because of this I rely heavily on McDonald’s for them. Coke maintains the machines themselves, and they really take care of McDonald’s, since they are such a big client. I almost never get a bad Coke from there. [/QUOTE] I’ve never had a good coke from a McDonald’s fountain. ALWAYS too watery. Burger King, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/44 "2007-02-08T02:41:03Z")
[QUOTE=FilmGeek] I’ve never had a good coke from a McDonald’s fountain. ALWAYS too watery. Burger King, on the other hand… [/QUOTE] That is so wild. There must just be variation in how people like their Coke. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/45 "2007-02-08T06:01:30Z")
Good [article](http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041109/news_1b9mexcoke.html)about American Coke and Mexican coke. We just love the Mexican markets, and there are a bunch around here. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/46 "2007-02-08T08:04:21Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > True about the flavor, but Coke seems so much fizzier than plain club soda, at least to me, so I thought maybe there was a different type of carbonation or something. There’s really only one kind, although the bottlers and restaurants may inject CO2 into the drink more forcefully or in greater quantity; alternatively, the club soda you’re familiar with could be less carbonated. Or, more scientifically, what **friedo** said. ---
**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/47 "2007-02-08T08:12:53Z")
I thought a pitting of Coke would be more like ‘They are imperialists and unethical and are exploiting the poor of the world’ than 'Why cannot I get a bottle? [Criticism\_of\_Coca-Cola](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola) ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/48 "2007-02-08T09:04:17Z")
We got glass for both Coke and Pepsi products. I never buy stuff in plastic if I can help it. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/49 "2007-02-08T10:13:51Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] Carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide. But I bet the ingredients in Coke syrup provide far more nucleation sites than plain water, leading to increased fizzyness as the CO[sub]2[/sub] bubbles out faster. [/QUOTE] It’s not nucleation sites, but yes, you have more of the reaction that goes [CO3]2-(aq) + 2 H+(aq) ----\> H2O(l) + CO2(g) (how do you make the super and subscripts? no button) The coke syrup is more acidic than plain water… i.e., more H+ floating around, so more reaction in the direction marked by the arrow, so more fizz. The soda doesn’t flatten while the bottle is capped because there comes a point when the pressure is enough to stop it (in more exact terms, to make the reaction happen at the same speed in the –\> and \<– directions… so on the macro level, bananas in one hand or bananas in the other). ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/50 "2007-02-08T10:59:36Z")
[QUOTE=Nava] (how do you make the super and subscripts? no button) [/QUOTE] x{sup}2{/sup} H{sub}2{/sub}O With square brackets instead of braces: x[sup]2[/sup] H[sub]2[/sub]O ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/51 "2007-02-08T16:35:42Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] What coin is that? It can’t be a quarter… [/QUOTE] Looks to be something almost but not quite entirely unlike a quarter. That does look like Washington to me. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/52 "2007-02-08T20:31:41Z")
I haven’t bought soda in years, but I always liked Coke (favorite soda of all) in bottles. I used to be able to get it in 16 oz. bottles (for some reason, I’m thinking 8-packs, but it’s been 15 years ago). The prize was finding a bottle that had the rectangular red logo instead of just the white stenciling. I don’t think the Coke was any different, but the bottles were better looking. As to the cane sugar/high-fructose corn syrup debate, I seem to vaguely recall hearing that for Passover (I think…I’m not Jewish), stores sell cane-sugar Coke as being kosher for some reason. No idea if this is true, but it’s rattling around my brain for some reason. Anybody know about this? It might be cheaper than going to Mexico. Final note: About 20-odd years ago, I used to be able to get six-packs of 1-liter glass bottles with screwtops for $3.29 in Oklahoma City. Boy, those were the days. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/53 "2007-02-08T20:36:08Z")
[QUOTE=Dijon Warlock] As to the cane sugar/high-fructose corn syrup debate, I seem to vaguely recall hearing that for Passover (I think…I’m not Jewish), stores sell cane-sugar Coke as being kosher for some reason. No idea if this is true, but it’s rattling around my brain for some reason. Anybody know about this? It might be cheaper than going to Mexico. [/QUOTE] I have heard from a reliable source that it is true about the kosher-for-Passover Coke…it uses real sugar. But it is very, very hard to find. I work in a Jewish neighborhood, so this year I am going to make it my mission to try to find some! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/54 "2007-02-08T21:29:09Z")
[QUOTE=Dijon Warlock] As to the cane sugar/high-fructose corn syrup debate, I seem to vaguely recall hearing that for Passover (I think…I’m not Jewish), stores sell cane-sugar Coke as being kosher for some reason.. [/QUOTE] [Why corn products are prohibited at Passover.](http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o/bl_simmons_passoverkosher.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/55 "2007-02-08T21:46:27Z")
Same for Budweiser. Bud from a can is undrinkable. But an ice cold long-neck Bud on a hot summer day, preferably with a cheeseburger off the grill and a big ole heap of potato salad cannot be beat. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/56 "2007-02-08T21:52:59Z")
[QUOTE=Fiddle Peghead] Same for Budweiser. Bud from a can is undrinkable. But an ice cold long-neck Bud on a hot summer day, preferably with a cheeseburger off the grill and a big ole heap of potato salad cannot be beat. [/QUOTE] Sure it can, give me an Ice Cold Bottle of Bass with a cheeseburger with good swiss cheese instead of american or cheddar. 😉 In fact lets make that cheeseburger some good italian sausage instead. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Hogwash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@Hogwash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogwash)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/57 "2007-02-08T22:06:08Z")
So, yours is the [highbrow version](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407464), eh Jim? ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/58 "2007-02-08T22:23:37Z")
Yeah, kosher Coke is sold around Passover (April-ish), in 2-liter bottles with yellow caps instead of the usual red caps. Be on the lookout – Albertson’s stores are usually great at stocking a wide variety of kosher-for-Passover products including these Cokes. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/59 "2007-02-08T22:25:34Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] If there is a Mexican market in your vicinity, chances are you can find Coke in a bottle. Made with real sugar. Divine. [/QUOTE] I thought “New Coke” was really an excuse to replace cane sugar with cheaper corn syrup – and then when they brought back “Classic Coke,” it was the same as before, **except** it was made with corn syrup. IOW, no more Coke with sugar in it, anywhere in the world. Can anyone confirm or debunk this? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224/60 "2007-02-08T22:29:22Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] I thought “New Coke” was really an excuse to replace cane sugar with cheaper corn syrup – and then when they brought back “Classic Coke,” it was the same as before, **except** it was made with corn syrup. IOW, no more Coke with sugar in it, anywhere in the world. Can anyone confirm or debunk this? [/QUOTE] I think the only people who could truly confirm or debunk this would be the folks at Coca-Cola who made the decsion to change the formula. But I do think it’s a pretty widely-held belief, and it seems like a pretty good theory to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-coca-cola-company/391224.md?page=4)