# I pit the cops who openly applauded police abuse today **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 28, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340 "2017-07-28T19:00:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/221 "2017-08-01T14:59:31Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Yes [it’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jerame_Reid) [a](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/05/how-a-white-phoenix-cop-killed-an-unarmed-black-man/?utm_term=.439beceea295) [very](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Terence_Crutcher) [small](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Samuel_DuBose) [cost](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile) [indeed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tamir_Rice). You’ve ruined your own argument by including cases where the police killed in self defence there. The system should protect those cops, as they’re the victims of violent crime. And I don’t give a fuck that Rice’s gun was fake. He tried to threaten the cops with it. _Anyone_ would be justified in shooting in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/222 "2017-08-01T15:02:43Z")
> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#): > > And I think the reason that the cops laughed at it was that they didn’t take him seriously. What about the cops who applauded? Laughter, I can see as a reflex to something absurd, but applause requires a more deliberate effort. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/223 "2017-08-01T15:04:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Quote the part that you think says that, because the voices in your head that are translating for you seem to be taking you for a ride. Ah, claiming those who disagree with you are mentally ill. That worked so well for **Clothahump** earlier in the thread, and you’ve just proved you’re as much of a fuckhead as he is. I’m not the one making things up, claiming that I have some sort of magical divine view of things that means I know better than judges and juries, unlike **Budget Player Cadet**. If you had the slightest bit of sense, you’d be calling him out for wanting to undermine the system, just as everyone (apart from the aforementioned **Clothahump** ) criticised Trump for trying to do the same thing. Doesn’t matter whether it’s extremists on the right or left, they should be called out when they advocate ignoring laws and justice. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/224 "2017-08-01T15:08:05Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Ah, claiming those who disagree with you are mentally ill. That worked so well for **Clothahump** earlier in the thread, and you’ve just proved you’re as much of a fuckhead as he is. > > I’m not the one making things up, claiming that I have some sort of magical divine view of things that means I know better than judges and juries, unlike **Budget Player Cadet**. If you had the slightest bit of sense, you’d be calling him out for wanting to undermine the system, just as everyone (apart from the aforementioned **Clothahump** ) criticised Trump for trying to do the same thing. Doesn’t matter whether it’s extremists on the right or left, they should be called out when they advocate ignoring laws and justice. So a direct quote instead of your twisted interpretation is out of the question? No surprise there. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/225 "2017-08-01T15:14:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So a direct quote instead of your twisted interpretation is out of the question? > No surprise there. I’ve quoted him in every reply I’ve made to him. You can read them quite easily - indeed, I’m sure you already have. This is, of course, The Pit, so you are quite within your rights to attack me rather than add anything of substance to the thread. It just makes you look like a fucking idiot when you do so. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/226 "2017-08-01T15:17:12Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > And I don’t give a fuck that Rice’s gun was fake. He tried to threaten the cops with it. _Anyone_ would be justified in shooting in that situation. “Tried to threaten the cops with it”. You dishonest shitbag. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/227 "2017-08-01T15:19:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “Tried to threaten the cops with it”. You dishonest shitbag. It’s on video, it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/228 "2017-08-01T15:21:07Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > And I don’t give a fuck that Rice’s gun was fake. He tried to threaten the cops with it. _Anyone_ would be justified in shooting in that situation. Why do you repeat stuff like this (that Rice supposedly “tried to threaten the cops with it”) that’s very obviously not factually known? To know this, you’d have to know exactly both what Rice did (which the video, grainy as it is, doesn’t make clear at all) plus what his intent was (for which you’d have to be psychic). When you repeat nonsense as facts, then it makes me think you’re either delusional or not arguing from an honest position. Hopefully you can try to do better. We all make mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/229 "2017-08-01T15:22:41Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I’ve quoted him in every reply I’ve made to him. You can read them quite easily - indeed, I’m sure you already have. This is, of course, The Pit, so you are quite within your rights to attack me rather than add anything of substance to the thread. It just makes you look like a fucking idiot when you do so. Ever since your trolling “cite” back in [post #133](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20381559&postcount=133), the only fucking idiot here is _you_. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/230 "2017-08-01T15:25:14Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > It’s on video, it must be true. And yet the Chief of Police said specifically “the child did not threaten the officer verbally or physically”. The police said it; it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/231 "2017-08-01T15:26:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > When you repeat nonsense as facts, then it makes me think you’re either delusional or not arguing from an honest position. Third possibility(and the most likely one): He is not arguing from an honest position, _and_ he is delusional in thinking that anyone is buying his bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/232 "2017-08-01T15:28:10Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Third possibility(and the most likely one): He is not arguing from an honest position, _and_ he is delusional in thinking that anyone is buying his bullshit. You’re projecting again. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/233 "2017-08-01T15:32:54Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > You’re projecting again. So why did you assert nonsense as fact? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/234 "2017-08-01T15:34:12Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I’m not the one making things up… Well, except for the part where you said **BCP** argued cops shouldn’t get trials. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/235 "2017-08-01T15:34:46Z")
A man who cannot accurately portray the arguments of others cannot be counted on to accurately portray events or evidence. As I said, If Steophan is a cop, he’s a dirty and dishonorable one. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/236 "2017-08-01T16:11:05Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > A man who cannot accurately portray the arguments of others cannot be counted on to accurately portray events or evidence. As I said, If Steophan is a cop, he’s a dirty and dishonorable one. I’d hope that someone who is in a constant state of terror for his own life would be steered away from a career in law enforcement, but it could just be wishful thinking on my part. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/237 "2017-08-01T16:27:31Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’d hope that someone who is in a constant state of terror for his own life would be steered away from a career in law enforcement, but it could just be wishful thinking on my part. Nah, it’s good that cowards are given a badge and a gun to go out and confront their personal demons. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/238 "2017-08-01T17:16:45Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Well, if you’re, like, a cat burglar, then you’ve hit a clear conflict of interest here, right? I have cats. Have you been spying on me? You can’t prove a thing, copper. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/239 "2017-08-01T17:24:33Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’d hope that someone who is in a constant state of terror for his own life would be steered away from a career in law enforcement, but it could just be wishful thinking on my part. I’m not in constant terror for my own life _because_ there are laws and cops who enforce them. Same as the rest of you. I wouldn’t want the risk _or_ the responsibility of doing that job. Fortunately, others are willing to do it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/240 "2017-08-01T17:37:40Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I’m not in constant terror for my own life _because_ there are laws and cops who enforce them. Same as the rest of you. I wouldn’t want the risk _or_ the responsibility of doing that job. Fortunately, others are willing to do it. I can appreciate the existence of law enforcement without feeling the need to suck their collective dick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340.md?page=13)