# I pit the cops who openly applauded police abuse today

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340 "2017-07-28T19:00:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/101 "2017-07-30T13:33:26Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”?

I don’t know where it derives from, but I expect it’s defined as a deviant suite of behaviors including empathy, reciprocity, altruism, cooperation, and a sense of fairness.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/102 "2017-07-30T13:44:05Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”? I see it repeated quite frequently by comment trolls who, like **Clothahump** , show no capacity for original thought. Is it one of Limbaugh’s stale chestnuts?

No, it’s just a spin on “I’m the smartest guy in any room, so anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot” brand of psychopathic thinking.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/103 "2017-07-30T13:47:43Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”? I see it repeated quite frequently by comment trolls who, like **Clothahump** , show no capacity for original thought. Is it one of Limbaugh’s stale chestnuts?

I would take it as a variation of this:

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> If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head.

[Here’s a page](http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/) on the history of similar phrasings of the concept.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/104 "2017-07-30T14:20:06Z")

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Every time you set a bar, Trump limbo-dances underneath it. Trump’s a bully. And anyone arrested or detained by police needs the presumption of their innocence to be respected.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/105 "2017-07-30T14:21:37Z")

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Actually, I grew up on a conservative baptist household and was quite conservative in my youth. As I’ve aged, I’ve mellowed and become more accepting of the world. So have my two sisters and my father. My mother has not.

If you’re becoming more conservative, it is because, like all too many conservatives, it becomes all about “Fuck you, I got mine!”.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/106 "2017-07-30T14:22:50Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Every time you set a bar, Trump limbo-dances underneath it. Trump’s a bully. And anyone arrested or detained by police needs the presumption of their innocence to be respected.

unfortunately far too many of us have been conditioned to believe that if the police simply even want to talk to you, you must have done something wrong and deserve everything you get.

People fervently believe that, right up to the instant they (or their kids) get into legal trouble.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/107 "2017-07-30T14:32:07Z")

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Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip  
Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”?  
Yes, there is. It’s called psychological projection.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/108 "2017-07-30T14:42:53Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”?

Google says it’s the title of a [book by Michael Savage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_Is_a_Mental_Disorder), but I don’t know who originally coined the phrase.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/109 "2017-07-30T14:44:30Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is there a specific source for the phrase “liberalism is a mental disorder”? I see it repeated quite frequently by comment trolls who, like **Clothahump** , show no capacity for original thought. Is it one of Limbaugh’s stale chestnuts?

I think it was the title of one of Ann Coulter’s books. I don’t know if she coined it, but I imagine that helped popularize the idea with people who walk past bookshelves.

ETA: Ah, Michael Savage, not Coulter. Easy mistake to make.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/110 "2017-07-30T14:51:02Z")

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In other words: “My rantings are nothing but bile, hate and lies. But it is the other guys who are mentally ill.”

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/111 "2017-07-30T15:07:24Z")

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I know it’s already been said, but even police are condemning Trump’s statements. that should, in theory, give Clothahump and other supporters a moment of pause.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/112 "2017-07-30T15:13:14Z")

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Should ain’t Will.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/113 "2017-07-30T15:19:11Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I know it’s already been said, but even police are condemning Trump’s statements. that should, in theory, give Clothahump and other supporters a moment of pause.

It doesn’t take that long to put them on his ignore list.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/114 "2017-07-30T16:25:43Z")

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> [@Strinka](#):
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> I notice that you didn’t respond to any of the people that actually answered your question about where Trump supported police brutality. In case you didn’t see them, here’s one of them:

Normally I’d think that’s par for the course with him but (as I thought earlier) he’s actually claimed to be a cop before!  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10343734&postcount=9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10343734&postcount=9)

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/115 "2017-07-30T17:24:30Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I know it’s already been said, but even police are condemning Trump’s statements. that should, in theory, give Clothahump and other supporters a moment of pause.

Link?

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/116 "2017-07-30T17:30:09Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Link?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20379071&postcount=86](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20379071&postcount=86)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/117 "2017-07-30T17:32:07Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Link?

Here are some cops pushing back:

> **[Cops push back at Trump law-and-order speech | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/29/politics/trump-police-remarks-reaction/index.html)**
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> Some in law enforcement criticize Trump’s remarks about police being “rough” with suspects, saying they send the wrong message at a time of heightened tensions.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/118 "2017-07-30T17:52:30Z")

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Thanks 🙂

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/119 "2017-07-30T18:10:37Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Here are some cops pushing back:
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/29/politics/trump-police-remarks-reaction/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/29/politics/trump-police-remarks-reaction/index.html)

\<\<“Trump didn’t tell police to go out & brutalize people as the media would have you believe,” the tweet said. “It was a joke.”\>\>

So, the media reporting a direct quote is somehow distoring what he said??! It’s not like we can’t watch the speech ourselves. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-cops-who-openly-applauded-police-abuse-today/792340/120 "2017-07-30T21:24:20Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I know it’s already been said, but even police are condemning Trump’s statements. that should, in theory, give Clothahump and other supporters a moment of pause.

It should give some other people here, who are ridiculously over-critical of the police, a moment of pause as well.

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