# I Pit The Credulous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573 "2012-05-30T19:35:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/21 "2012-05-31T17:25:40Z")
When you believe in things that you don’t understand, then you suffer… ---
**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/22 "2012-05-31T17:26:12Z")
**Little Nemo** –there are people out there who DO NOT use shampoo. > **[How to Go No Poo](https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Go-No-Poo/)** > > How to Go No Poo: To go No Poo is to stop using shampoo. Why would you want to do this? > 1. Shampoo is expensive.2. Chemicals\* in shampoo can irritate and dry out your scalp and hair.3. Chemicals\* in shampoo can be hazardous to your health.4. Your... I don’t think I’m brave enough to go No Poo though…I have really thick hair that gets unbelivably nasty if I don’t wash it at least every other day. It’s even worse in summer, when I"m in the pool constantly–if I don’t wash the pool water out of my hair as soon as I’m done, my hair knots up and tries to go all dread-locky on me. Do vaccines cause autism? I don’t know. I honestly cannot say whether they do or not. Unlike all the stories I’ve read/seen on TV about how parents noticed that their kid went rapidly downhill after recieving this vaccine or that vaccine, I never noticed that with Slim. I think that there’s a distinct chance that since several of my family members (myself included) have learning disorders, he was predisposed to this kind of thing however. Another thing I don’t buy into is the “Bleach it all NOW NOW NOW!” that the bleach/chemical companies seem to be pushing all the time. I do clean my house–but not with bleach (except in the bathroom). I usually use a vinegar/water solution which seems to work just fine. Slim is one of the healthiest kids I know and I can count on one HAND the number of times he’s gotten sick in his entire life. I like to think that my sensible approach to cleaning things is responsible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/23 "2012-05-31T17:54:12Z")
> [@fumster](#): > > Holy fuck, I didn’t dare mention 9/11. I once had a lady tell me _Obama_ was responsible for 9-11. No, she did not mis-speak. Didn’t mean that other guy. I regret not asking for details. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/24 "2012-05-31T18:40:00Z")
> [@SticksAndString](#): > > Do vaccines cause autism? I don’t know. I honestly cannot say whether they do or not. Seriously? Did you not fucking notice the “fighting ignorance” thing on the Dope? Did you not realize this Pitting applies to you as well if you are credulous enough to think there is even in the slightest doubt about the non-existence of such a link? Look up any non-crazy information you want - there is absolutely no basis for thinking there is such a link, except for personal observations that aren’t worth squat. Repeat after me: "VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. If I am even ‘unsure’ vaccines cause autism, I need to consider better role models for my children, because my dumbass ignorance that can’t be bothered to look up reputable data might rub off on them." As for using your own kid as a judge for either vaccines or cleanliness, Og please save your kid from further idiocy. A single data point means diddly in proving a causal link. Great for you that your kid is healthy but it says NOTHING AT ALL about whether your unresearched and incredibly biased notions are correct or not. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/25 "2012-05-31T18:52:03Z")
> [@SticksAndString](#): > > Do vaccines cause autism? I don’t know. I honestly cannot say whether they do or not. Unlike all the stories I’ve read/seen on TV about how parents noticed that their kid went rapidly downhill after recieving this vaccine or that vaccine, I never noticed that with Slim. I think that there’s a distinct chance that since several of my family members (myself included) have learning disorders, he was predisposed to this kind of thing however. Vaccines do not cause autism. The issue has been repeatedly [studied](http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-final-nail-in-the-mercury-autism-hypothesis/%5B/url). No evidence has been found. Even in the original infamous Wakefield study it did not state this assertion. Parents think their children get autism after vaccines because they a) they remember that date and b) they often aren’t aware of subtle signs of autism that show up before then. > **[Autism signs appear in babies' first year, but parents don't notice, study finds](https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/booster-shots/story/2010-02-23/autism-signs-appear-in-babies-first-year-but-parents-dont-notice-study-finds)** > > This article was originally on a blog post platform and may be missing photos, graphics or links. > [@](#): > > The social disengagement that is the hallmark of autism-spectrum disorders begins to appear in the second half of a baby’s first year of life, according to a new study. But California researchers found that parents typically do not notice the decline in their child’s behavior until well into his or her second year. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/26 "2012-05-31T19:01:45Z")
> [@SticksAndString](#): > > “Bleach it all NOW NOW NOW!” that the bleach/chemical companies seem to be pushing all the time. Well, they would, of course. They have an obvious interest in selling more bleach. They don’t care if using more bleach has any effect on your house or your health, they care how much bleach you buy. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/27 "2012-05-31T19:20:01Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > Well, they would, of course. They have an obvious interest in selling more bleach. They don’t care if using more bleach has any effect on your house or your health, they care how much bleach you buy. Speaking of bleach the crazies are currently promoting bleach enemas as a “treatment” for autism: > [@](#): > > [The lowest of the low: Trying to bleach autism away | ScienceBlogs](http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/05/25/selling-bleach-as-a-cure-for-autism/) > > Rivera, it turns out, is a woman who runs a clinic in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico that she calls AutismO2 Clinica Hyperbarica. If her website is any indication, Rivera gives autistic children MMS by mouth and by enema. (Yes, she subjects autistic children to bleach enemas.) _Bleach enemas._ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/28 "2012-05-31T19:26:03Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Speaking of bleach the crazies are currently promoting bleach enemas as a “treatment” for autism: > > _Bleach enemas._ > > :eek: There are not enough :eek: in the _world_ to express what I think of that… ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/29 "2012-05-31T19:52:21Z")
> [@SticksAndString](#): > > Do vaccines cause autism? I don’t know. I honestly cannot say whether they do or not. Well then, it’s a good thing that there are other people who DO know, and from whom you can learn, if you do this thing called “credible research.” Or a search for threads on THIS VERY BOARD about the issue. Short answer that has been repeated effectively elsewhere: They do not. There is no link between vaccines and autism. The original research that started this myth was fraudulent, and the researcher has been stripped of his medical credentials. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/30 "2012-05-31T19:54:10Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > _Bleach enemas._ At least they’ll poo white. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/31 "2012-05-31T20:21:30Z")
> [@mkecane](#): > > I’m going to add a mini-Pit of Milwaukee Ald. Jim Bohl in here. He wants Milwaukee to stop adding fluoride to its water. > > [http://www.wuwm.com/news/wuwm\_news.php?articleid=10519](http://www.wuwm.com/news/wuwm_news.php?articleid=10519) > > _“We all know that we do not have children or anyone swallow toothpaste .And the reason we don’t do that is because of the poison substance of fluoride. If fluoride was such an effective and non-harmful substance, why would we not encourage everyone to swallow their toothpaste?” Bohl says._ :mad: We’ll see about that! We’ll find **some** way to sap and impurify all of his precious bodily fluids! And he’ll **like** it! ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/32 "2012-05-31T20:32:27Z")
I’ve been on a run of meeting weirdos lately. A recent one was telling me how he’s really into science and not a religious nut and then proceeded to tell me how all life on Earth came from a single mother 4,000 years ago. Yes, I stopped him. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/33 "2012-05-31T22:19:42Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I once had a lady tell me _Obama_ was responsible for 9-11. No, she did not mis-speak. Didn’t mean that other guy. > > I regret not asking for details. We’ll fund a mission for you to find her again, this time armed with a video crew\*. \*(In the event of minimum contributions to _GatoQuest2012™_, a pocket notepad will suffice) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/34 "2012-05-31T23:17:55Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Speaking of bleach the crazies are currently promoting bleach enemas as a “treatment” for autism Forget autism. What are they doing about the outbreak of pink eye? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/35 "2012-06-01T01:23:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Forget autism. What are they doing about the outbreak of pink eye? Bleach works on pink, too. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/36 "2012-06-01T01:27:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Forget autism. What are they doing about the outbreak of pink eye? There’s a new treatment that will reduce the duration of pink eye from 2 weeks to fourteen days – BUT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT IT! ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/37 "2012-06-01T01:45:12Z")
I believe that pinkeye is caused by inadequate bleaching of redeye in the redeye reduction process. MORE BLEACH. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/38 "2012-06-01T01:55:31Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > MORE BLEACH. And more cowbell! ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/39 "2012-06-01T04:06:24Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I’ve been on a run of meeting weirdos lately. A recent one was telling me how he’s really into science and not a religious nut and then proceeded to tell me how all life on Earth came from a single mother 4,000 years ago. > > Yes, I stopped him. I sometimes feel like mentioning the Mitochondrial Eve to these people, but I’m afraid I’ll just encourage them. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-credulous/623573/40 "2012-06-01T04:23:00Z")
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