# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/241 "2012-07-05T23:50:08Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > Being invisible is overrated. I always seem to have people bumping into me… and they never apologize. Just sit quietly in the dressing room and you’ll be OK. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/242 "2012-07-06T00:09:57Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > [Them!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047573/)? No, worse! [They!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_live) ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/243 "2012-07-06T02:58:17Z")
Yah know, my brother and I were having a discussion tonight at the dinner table about whether being off your meds was the opposite of getting high. You know, because one’s from taking drugs and one’s from not taking drugs? I suggested that it be called “getting low”. Is it just me, or have there been a lot of “low” people hanging out here lately? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/244 "2012-07-06T03:26:50Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > Being invisible is overrated. I always seem to have people bumping into me… and they never apologize. I’m terribly sorry. I didn’t see you there. What I do see is that we are apparently having our regular end-of-school-year influx of kids! who! live! to! shock! with! their! original! positions! Ah, youth. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/245 "2012-07-06T05:28:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, worse! [They!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_live) Damn, you’re right. If Rowdy Roddy Piper says they’re bad news, I believe him. And I’m all out of bubblegum. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/246 "2012-07-06T11:47:45Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > One of the funniest damned things I find in the entire Illuminati bullshit is this. > > Almost all of the CTs postulate that the goal of these societies is to control the world and reduce us to servitude. Most of them postulate that society as we know it will be destroyed and we’ll be reduced to the dark ages under their control. This has the following flaws; > > 1\> If they’ve been working at this for 200+ years, they’re **miserable incompetent fuckups** , because we keep advancing, the population growing, we’re getting objectively more comfortable, richer and living longer. The complete opposite of stated goals. Ah, but it is only due to the vigilance of the non-sheeple that we have not already fallen off the precipice into mass eugenicide and eternal servitude to our dark masters. Besides, the “objective” evidence of improved standards of living and lifespan is spoon-fed to you by the Illuminati-controlled media. We actually lived far longer, ate better and had happier lives back in 1840. Here is [a YouTube video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s7819ZckJ0) that proves it. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/247 "2012-07-06T12:43:09Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Is it just me, or have there been a lot of “low” people hanging out here lately? Think they wear yellow coats? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/248 "2012-07-06T13:03:32Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Central Planning has shown itself to be a miserable failure. Because of the Illuminati _agent provocateurs_, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/249 "2012-07-06T15:35:57Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Because of the Illuminati _agent provocateurs_, duh. Please: _agents provocateur_. I know we’re dealing with the terrifying prospect of a conspiracy of global hackers who control our every thought and deed, but that’s no excuse for incorrectly pluralizing French words. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/250 "2012-07-06T16:28:22Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > It has become absolutely insufferable fashionable to be the cynic. It’s the new ironic. A position completely void of any insight or personal investment, or indeed drive to make changes. I’ll take the idealist and dreamer any day of the week. Also the conspiracy nut. i will direct you back to the first bit of Menckenian wisdom…the one about underestimating things… ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/251 "2012-07-06T16:30:17Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > **Kozmik** , just to clarify, are you Miriam Lawrence of New York, NY? That’s the assumption I made when I read [post 157](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15235377&postcount=157), but I’m not sure whether that was what you intended. No, I am not Miriam Lawrence and I did not write that letter. I just used that letter as an example of the type of letter I had written. There’s another assumption made about me. That I had written nutty letters. My letters in the newspapers were controversial, subversive, humorous, revolutionary, and bold. I suppose some people could say they were nutty, however that would not be a fair charaterization. You have to understand the time during which I was writting these letters. It was during the Iraq War. It’s hard to characterize this time on college campus. There was the threat of Iran, North Korea. There was affirmative action debate. There was protests, rallies, arguments over human rights, religion. And I noticed the tenor and type of articles in the student newspaper. In light of then recent events and the Bush administration I had an interesting anti-war viewpoint and view on democracy. I approached the editor with my ideas on anti-war and democracy. He knew me from joking about reality TV and comedy shows of the day. He said, to the effect, “Are you sure you want to do this?” I said, to the effect, “Fuck it! This needed to be written. I want it printed.” He licked his lips and said ok. One of the letters was about the Republicans. Another letter was on anti-war. Another letter was about democracy. That letter on democracy predicted the Occupy movement among other things. So read that letter again in [post 157](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15235377&postcount=157) and realize what that letter writer is writing about and maybe you will get an idea of the substance of my letters and views. > [@Alessan](#): > > Kozmik - > > You’re trying to figure out how the world works. I’m less ambitious. I’m trying to figure out how one person works - that person being you, **Kozmik**. > > I was trying to understand your logic. I was not agreeing with it or claiming it was viable, I was simply trying to understand how you went from Stuxnet to the Illuminati. It seems as though I was correct. That’s nice. > > Personally (and based on absolutely no inside information), I think Stuxnet was written by the kids at [Mamram](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamram), and all it proves is that Israeli military hackers have some mad skillz and that Israel was never afraid to engage its enemies on new battlefields. I do not in any way, shape or form conclude that it was initiated by some invisible cabal of international masterminds, because such an invisible cabal of international masterminds\* does not exist.\* Three things you should know about me: (1) I work (2) I read _The New York Times_ every day and (3) I post on The Straight Dope Message Board. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/252 "2012-07-06T16:32:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Please: _agents provocateur_. I know we’re dealing with the terrifying prospect of a conspiracy of global hackers who control our every thought and deed, but that’s no excuse for incorrectly pluralizing French words. I agree, nobody should incorrectly pluralize _agents provocateurs_. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/253 "2012-07-06T16:35:11Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > There’s another assumption made about me. That I had written nutty letters. Only because you keep saying things are fucking nuts. The fact that newspapers have published your letters (about other stuff) doesn’t prove your views on conspiracies are sane. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/254 "2012-07-06T16:37:32Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > You have to understand the time during which I was writting these letters. It was during the Iraq War. It’s hard to characterize this time on college campus. There was the threat of Iran, North Korea. There was affirmative action debate. There was protests, rallies, arguments over human rights, religion. Yeah, it’s difficult for all of us now, looking back with our modern sensibilities, to appreciate the turbulent _Zeitgeist_ of like, six or seven years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/255 "2012-07-06T16:38:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I agree, nobody should incorrectly pluralize _agents provocateurs_. Don’t make me call a bunch of Attorneys General. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/256 "2012-07-06T17:20:48Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Yeah, it’s difficult for all of us now, looking back with our modern sensibilities, to appreciate the turbulent _Zeitgeist_ of like, six or seven years ago. And it’s hard for some young people (whose life history is so short) to understand that for some of us, that’s pretty much “yesterday”. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/257 "2012-07-06T19:36:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Yeah, it’s difficult for all of us now, looking back with our modern sensibilities, to appreciate the turbulent _Zeitgeist_ of like, six or seven years ago. Way back in the halcyon days of yore when college students were able to face up to the social ostracism and financial repercussions of boldly daring to criticize Republicans and war in a college newspaper editorial page. What a world that must have been. I can only dream. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/258 "2012-07-06T19:43:33Z")
If this thread had a soundtrack, we’d be hearing Buffalo Springfield’s “For What It’s Worth” remixed with an obnoxious techno beat.\* \*\* - If this actually exists, _please_ let me remain unaware of it. \*\* Yes, I’m aware there is no other kind of techno beat. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/259 "2012-07-06T20:40:20Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Don’t make me call a bunch of Attorneys General. You know a bunch of very high ranking military attorneys? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/260 "2012-07-06T20:48:03Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > You have to understand the time during which I was writting these letters. It was during the Iraq War. It’s hard to characterize this time on college campus. There was the threat of Iran, North Korea. There was affirmative action debate. There was protests, rallies, arguments over human rights, religion. _Those were the days, my friend I thought they’d never end Sheer lunacy was tolerated then._ Is there some place I can order a **Derisive, Condenscending, Anti-Conspiriacy Propagandist** T-shirt?\* \*without the misspellings; I don’t want to look _too_ silly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=14)