# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/281 "2012-07-07T15:07:28Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > AHA! The Illuminati trick is that there are a lot of volcanos in the world and they have obscured which one is the real Mt. Doom. I’m pretty sure it’s the one Xenu is imprisoned in. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/282 "2012-07-07T17:10:40Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Shocking it is, but by a weird trick our intrepid NWO-fighters\* have managed to absolve the Jews _and_ blame them for the Illuminati [at the same time](http://www.henrymakow.com/were_illuminati_jews_responsib.html)! > > _“The satanic plague devouring humanity originated with the Sabbatean-Frankist cult, a Satanic Jewish heresy based on the Cabala that absorbed half the Jews in Europe in the 17th/18th Century, including the Rothschilds. By pretending to convert, many Satanists infiltrated and subverted all important religions, organizations and governments. They are the progenitors of the Illuminati, of Zionism, Communism, Fascism and they control Freemasonry. The NWO is their goal.”_ > > It’s all tied together, you just have to [connect](http://www.whale.to/b/reptilian_hosting.html) the [dots](http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/dr-rima-laibow-explains-the-illuminati-depopulation-agenda/), as **Kozmik** has…almost. > Ah, but who controls that Someone? Just when **Kozmik** thinks he’s peeled back all layers of the onion, more layers remain. > > Keep plugging away, Mister! My sources are The Straight Dope Message Board and _The New York Times_. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > **Kozmik** is one of their innumerable useful idiots, hand-picked against a specific psych profile and fed just enough information to ensure that he comes across as a barking loon. I’m getting my information from the above sources. > [@Smeghead](#): > > And what exactly are they doing with all this amazing influence? What not even the President of the United States can do: [QUOTE=The New York Times, July 7, 2012] “This economy has no forward momentum and little help from monetary or fiscal policy,” said Kathy Bostjancic, director of macroeconomic analysis for the Conference Board. “As if that were not enough, ill winds are blowing in from both a contracting Europe and slowing growth in emerging markets.” [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=The New York Times, July 7, 2012] The question then is why the recovery under Mr. Obama has not been stronger. Part of the answer lies beyond the control of any American politician, including the euro zone crisis and, more recently, the slowdown in China. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/283 "2012-07-07T17:28:42Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > My sources are The Straight Dope Message Board and _The New York Times_. > > I’m getting my information from the above sources. How many members of the Illuminati are members of the Dope? I mean other than, uh… not me, of course. Hahahah! That’s funny, I don’t run the world. Why are you looking at me like that? Let’s talk about something else. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/284 "2012-07-07T17:29:21Z")
Because there are too many factors and too many variables and too many economies involved in the mix, dumbass [Kozmik], not because some small group is making it be that way. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/285 "2012-07-07T17:37:28Z")
That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? \*\*Kozmik \*\*learns that national leaders don’t really control the world, and from that he reaches the conclusion that an even smaller group of people have to control it. What he seems to be ignoring is the infinitely more likely possibility - namely, that \*nobody \*controls the world. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/286 "2012-07-07T17:47:37Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > My sources are The Straight Dope Message Board and _The New York Times_. The Straight Dope Message Board has been telling you— you personally, the poster calling himself **Kozmik** — in no uncertain terms that you’re talking a bunch of nonsense. The _New York Times_ isn’t telling you anything it doesn’t tell millions of other readers, unless you’re holed up in a tool shed circling random words with a red crayon to find the hidden messages. Is that what’s happening? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/287 "2012-07-07T18:18:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > What he seems to be ignoring is the infinitely more likely possibility - namely, that \*nobody \*controls the world. Why is that the infinitely more likely possibility? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/288 "2012-07-07T18:35:55Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Why is that the infinitely more likely possibility? That post was so stupid that it caused my entire computer to blue screen crash and eat the SDMB cookie, just to forget. No, I’m not joking. I’ve often said that should I become Emperor of the World, I will open a series of **Homes for the Terminally Stupid** , where they will be kept free from even the most basic decisions or troubling information. I think we just found Guest #1. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/289 "2012-07-07T18:41:30Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > That post was so stupid that it caused my entire computer to blue screen crash and eat the SDMB cookie, just to forget. No, I’m not joking. > > I’ve often said that should I become Emperor of the World, I will open a series of **Homes for the Terminally Stupid** , where they will be kept free from even the most basic decisions or troubling information. > > I think we just found Guest #1. [Guest #2.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15241013&postcount=228) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/290 "2012-07-07T18:45:47Z")
And that about wraps it up. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/291 "2012-07-07T19:01:20Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > And that about wraps it up. You’ve prove [my point](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15241013&postcount=228), you slow-assed idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/292 "2012-07-07T19:04:19Z")
Wait! Is Xenu one of the Illuminati? Or perhaps… HE is the force that actually runs the Illuminati \. So many things make sense now. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/293 "2012-07-07T19:17:18Z")
Well, of course. Tom Cruise, Travolta and Will Smith are his financial backers and gofers and supply his lair deep within the volcano with his high-collared silver cape, and installed all the huge levers, labeled things like, “Tip the Florida vote in GWB’s favor,” “Initiate Housing Bubble Collapse,” “Ping location of Osama’s courier’s cell phone,” “Tsunami and Fukashima Meltdown Trigger,” “Keep Mark Walberg off one of the 9/11 planes to ensure Al Quada’s Success,” or even “Deploy Justin Bieber’s rise to fame.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/294 "2012-07-07T19:40:01Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Because there are too many factors and too many variables and too many economies involved in the mix, dumbass [Kozmik], not because some small group is making it be that way. QFT and I agree that **Kosmik** ’s last replies show that there is no good evidence coming from him, only an attempt to insult the ones he is “trying” to convince, and that in itself is a very idiotic thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/295 "2012-07-07T19:49:36Z")
I always found that linking to things that in no way prove or even have anything to do with the text of the post is a particularly good debate technique. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/296 "2012-07-07T19:52:00Z")
And of course, with a bit of internet sleuthing, I was able to upturn this rather incriminating [photo](http://media.sbs.com.au/films/thumb/640_360_100/site_28_rand_599894976_battlefield_earth_627.gif) to uphold my stance. This one, of John Travolta and Forest Whitaker, out of their human make-up, choking what appears to be a mere aide in Obama’s re-election campaign. Now, what this photo _doesn’t_ show, is the handshake that must surely have taken place before or after the choking. And what that handshake was for, will bring about and will affect our lives directly or indirectly, of that have no doubt, we can not know, because we were not there. Also, the description of the spacecraft known to be the ships that brought the Thetas to their certain demise here on earth, by the Evil Alien Overlord Xenu, happen to look identical to that a 747 Boeing aircraft. So what, you say? I’ll tell you what. The very same type of aircraft is what happened to crash into the Two Towers (bares an uncanny resemblance of a certain book title, does it not?) of the WTC, on September 11, 2001? The very kind of aircraft John Travolta not only has a licence to fly, but actually owns, along with a 707? The very same craft depicted in a major set piece of War of the Worlds? Yes, starring none other than, Tom. Fucking. Cruise. And I’ve only just begun. You’re all sheeple. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/297 "2012-07-07T20:10:41Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I always found that linking to things that in no way prove or even have anything to do with the text of the post is a particularly good debate technique. [Standard](http://www.zazzle.com/peace_love_homeopathy_button-145183053949934768) [Illuminati](http://www.mdinvasivesp.org/archived_invaders/archived_invaders_2003_04.html) [misdirection.](http://www.mp3lyrics.org/n/nancy-sinatra/the-last/) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/298 "2012-07-07T20:15:00Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > So what, you say? I’ll tell you what. The very same type of aircraft is what happened to crash into the Two Towers (bares an uncanny resemblance of a certain book title, does it not?) of the WTC, on September 11, 2001? The very kind of aircraft John Travolta not only has a licence to fly, but actually owns, along with a 707? The very same craft depicted in a major set piece of War of the Worlds? Yes, starring none other than, Tom. Fucking. Cruise. Psst. They were two 757s and two 767s. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/299 "2012-07-07T20:33:46Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Psst. They were two 757s and two 767s. I said “same type.” Simple minds! ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/300 "2012-07-07T20:57:23Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I always found that linking to things that in no way prove or even have anything to do with the text of the post is a particularly good debate technique. [Confucius](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart) [say:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjuncture_(international_relations)) [clicking](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Century_after_Beatrice) [random](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_10:_A_Journey_of_Numbers) [article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przykory,_Gr%C3%B3jec_County) [button](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cridersville,_Ohio) [on](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertechramnus) [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Manuel_de_Mello) [to](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton-Norman_War) [make](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Cook_(American_football)) [link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano) [wins](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_VFL_season) [debate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Richard,_Duke_of_Gloucester) [all](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Egger) [the](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalakat_Illam) [time.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Teen_USA_1994) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=16)