# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/301 "2012-07-07T22:14:48Z")
Wait, wait… **Kozmik** : Is this “puppeteer” that you posit is pulling ALL the strings of power either of a supernatural or extraterrestrial nature? Though I find either prospect preposterous, at least that makes some sort of logical sense as to how they could possibly pull off such a feat. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/302 "2012-07-07T22:48:16Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Dare I ask with what grand power _they_ must wield that makes not just entire populations of people, their leaders, their governments, or the entire global economy obey their, or shall we just be blunt and say, _“his”_ every command? > > And is the only way to destroy it is to cast it into the fires of Mt. Doom where upon which it was forged? God damn it. I was just at Mt. Doom about 2 years ago, why didn’t you guys just ask me drop it off while I there? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/303 "2012-07-07T22:53:16Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > God damn it. I was just at Mt. Doom about 2 years ago, why didn’t you guys just ask me drop it off while I there? What, and entrust a Sith with the One Ring?! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/304 "2012-07-07T23:33:31Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > God damn it. I was just at Mt. Doom about 2 years ago, why didn’t you guys just ask me drop it off while I there? Is there really a teahouse at the summit? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/305 "2012-07-08T00:16:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Is there really a teahouse at the summit? I’ve heard there is. I also believe this is where **brazil84** holes up. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/306 "2012-07-08T03:19:55Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > QFT and I agree that **Kosmik** ’s last replies show that there is no good evidence coming from him, only an attempt to insult the ones he is “trying” to convince, and that in itself is a very idiotic thing to do. I am not trying to convince **Alessan**. I am not insulting **Alessan**. I was waiting for **Alessan** to answer my question. Then **Chimera** responded to my post, not answering my question, just insulting me. **Alessan** _understands_ me: > [@Alessan](#): > > That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? \*\*Kozmik \*\*learns that national leaders don’t really control the world, and from that he reaches the conclusion that an even smaller group of people have to control it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/307 "2012-07-08T03:34:22Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I am not trying to convince **Alessan**. I am not insulting **Alessan**. I was waiting for **Alessan** to answer my question. Then **Chimera** responded to my post, not answering my question, just insulting me. > > **Alessan** _understands_ me: You had to selectively quote him, and even then you need a very "creative’ mind to assume that he understands you. > [@Alessan](#): > > That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? \*\*Kozmik \*\*learns that national leaders don’t really control the world, and from that he reaches the conclusion that an even smaller group of people have to control it. \*\*What he seems to be ignoring is the infinitely more likely possibility - namely, that _nobody controls the world._ Bold part was the omission. I do not think he is agreeing with you. He is only saying that he understands the Monty Python logic that you are using and then you happily ignore the rest of what he said. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/308 "2012-07-08T03:36:26Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You had to selectively quote him, and even then you need a very "creative’ mind to assume that he understands you. > Bold part was the omission. > > I do not think he is agreeing with you. He is only saying that he understands the Monty Python logic that you are using and then you happily ignore the rest of what he said. [No, I didn’t.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15247434&postcount=287) :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/309 "2012-07-08T03:39:49Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I am not trying to convince **Alessan**. I am not insulting **Alessan**. I was waiting for **Alessan** to answer my question. Then **Chimera** responded to my post, not answering my question, just insulting me. > > **Alessan** _understands_ me: I got it! **Alessan** wrote Stuxnet and is the Illuminati. It is the only possible way he could understand **Kozmik** The plot thickens… **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/310 "2012-07-08T03:49:31Z")
**Kozmik** Really you live here? second paragraph (Plot) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big\_Fat\_Liar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Fat_Liar) A Frankie Muniz movie **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/311 "2012-07-08T04:45:09Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > [No, I didn’t.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15247434&postcount=287) :mad: You are attempting to ignore it now, your last post depends on the ignorance of the complete quote so the point stands, he is not agreeing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/312 "2012-07-08T05:11:50Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > **Kozmik** Really you live here? second paragraph (Plot) > > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big\_Fat\_Liar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Fat_Liar) > > A Frankie Muniz movie > > **CAPT** I live in Michigan. Thanks for noticing. You should watch the movie, if not to have a few laughs then to understand me. I identify with Jason (Frankie Muniz) and Kaylee (Amanda Bynes). > [@GIGObuster](#): > > You are attempting to ignore it now, your last post depends on the ignorance of the complete quote so the point stands, he is not agreeing with you. Ignore this: > [@Alessan](#): > > \*\*Kozmik \*\*learns that national leaders don’t really control the world I learned something. **Alessan** (and possibly a few other posters) knows how I learned that national leaders don’t really control the world. I want to hear from **Alessan** to see how he knew I learned that. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/313 "2012-07-08T05:26:44Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > How many members of the Illuminati are members of the Dope? I mean other than, uh… not me, of course. Hahahah! That’s funny, I don’t run the world. Why are you looking at me like that? Let’s talk about something else. Come to think of it… has **Illuminatiprimus** posted in this thread at all? Aha! See? See? I TOLJA, SHEEPLES! ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/314 "2012-07-08T05:27:17Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > he is not agreeing with you. I [posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15240932&postcount=222) as much. Why don’t we wait for him to have his say? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/315 "2012-07-08T05:35:26Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > The Illuminati has more influence over China and India than Barack Obama. More influence over Joseph Kony being captured and killed than [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc) YouTube video. More influence over Syria than WikiLeaks. More influence over Israel than all the Jews, Muslims and Christians combined. More influence over every single person on earth than anyone, except _someone_ who controls the Illuminati. > [@Alessan](#): > > That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? \*\*Kozmik \*\*learns that national leaders don’t really control the world, and from that he reaches the conclusion that an even smaller group of people have to control it. What he seems to be ignoring is the infinitely more likely possibility - namely, that \*nobody \*controls the world. Why is that the infinitely more likely possibility? How do you know that I learned that national leaders don’t really control the world? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/316 "2012-07-08T06:03:15Z")
Huh, so now Kosmik is saying that a poster did agree with him, but then again he does not. I will let him fight that one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/317 "2012-07-08T12:21:45Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > How do you know that I learned that national leaders don’t really control the world? Because you posted that. I mean, it’s in your own words just up thread when you say the presidents are being controlled. It’s like arguing with a stump. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/318 "2012-07-08T12:26:28Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > How do you know that I learned that national leaders don’t really control the world? Because he can _see_ you. (Maybe close your blinds?) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/319 "2012-07-08T13:14:54Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > **Alessan** _understands_ me: Most of us _understand_ you. We comprehend the confusion you labor under, and realize how tempting it is when befuddled by complex situations and events to postulate a single concealed guiding hand(s). We _get_ that you’re taking the easy way out, rather than bothering to learn what really happens in the world around you. We _understand_ how the conspiracy-prone mind works. As I believe the rest of my fellow [del]Illuminati[/del] posters would agree, we do **not** agree to share your delusions. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/320 "2012-07-08T15:47:46Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Huh, so now Kosmik is saying that a poster did agree with him, but then again he does not. I will let him fight that one. 🙂 Cocaine is a hell of a drug. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=17)