# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/481 "2012-07-13T08:54:41Z")
Okay. Serious question. Why? What does this dude have over everybody? Why the allegence? The more people, cultures, governments, and economies involved, the more the entire secret society would splinter and crumble. Seriously, how is this man/woman/sleestack able to ensure his ultimate power will not be undermined or overthrown. What power does he have over everyone? An implanted poison capsule that can be activated via remote? A pocket nuke? His dashing smile? The promise of free iPads? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/482 "2012-07-13T11:38:06Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Ok. I’ve made my point about how many nations there are and how many heads of state there are. Nobody is questioning those facts. We all know those numbers. What everyone is questioning is why you think those are “points”. Why do you think those numbers are important? Who CARES? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/483 "2012-07-13T11:55:55Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > …someone is above the Illuminati and that that someone is a power-unto-themself. Ah, but who controls _that_ person? Doesn’t it make sense to you that another powerful clique must hold the reins of power over a solitary NWO figure? There’s strength in numbers, you know. Wheels within wheels…you’ve got to keep peeling back the layers of the onion, you’re not done yet. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/484 "2012-07-13T12:18:06Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Ah, but who controls _that_ person? Doesn’t it make sense to you that another powerful clique must hold the reins of power over a solitary NWO figure? There’s strength in numbers, you know. > > Wheels within wheels…you’ve got to keep peeling back the layers of the onion, you’re not done yet. You’ll never be done with it-it’s a Moebius Onion that leads back to itself. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/485 "2012-07-13T12:18:34Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Nobody is questioning those facts. We all know those numbers. What everyone is questioning is why you think those are “points”. Why do you think those numbers are important? Who CARES? Its a symptom of insanity. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/486 "2012-07-13T13:10:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Ah, but who controls _that_ person? Doesn’t it make sense to you that another powerful clique must hold the reins of power over a solitary NWO figure? There’s strength in numbers, you know. > > Wheels within wheels…you’ve got to keep peeling back the layers of the onion, you’re not done yet. Ezekiel? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/487 "2012-07-13T13:26:26Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Ezekiel? Ezikiel saw the wheel. This is the wheel he said he [saw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVADz0Afss). ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/488 "2012-07-13T13:48:56Z")
Crap. My iPhone won’t play it. Was it Robert the tire from _Rubber?_ I hope it was Robert the tire from _Rubber._ ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/489 "2012-07-13T13:57:31Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Ezikiel saw the wheel. This is the wheel he said he [saw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVADz0Afss). I tawt I taw a wheel - Tweety ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/490 "2012-07-13T14:11:15Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Crap. My iPhone won’t play it. Was it Robert the tire from _Rubber?_ > > I hope it was Robert the tire from _Rubber._ That was a very strange movie, good but strange **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/491 "2012-07-13T14:17:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > it’s a Moebius Onion that leads back to itself. That explains the smell. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/492 "2012-07-13T14:24:15Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Ok. I’ve made my point about how many nations there are and how many heads of state there are. I’ve also made my point about how, as head of state of a superpower (currently the world’s only superpower), Barack Obama is, arguably, the most powerful person on earth. I want to make my point (which I know will be disputed) that the Illuminati is above Barack Obama and that _someone_ is above the Illuminati and that that _someone_ is a power-unto-themself. You are brazen. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/493 "2012-07-13T14:30:41Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > You are brazen. I do find myself wondering what would happen if **Kozmik** found the Illuminati and told them they were not really running the world and were in fact being secretly controlled by a sinister individual. Would they listen or laugh their asses off? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/494 "2012-07-13T14:59:02Z")
Well while we are waiting for **Kozmik** to red crayon and red yarn link todays NYT anyone want to play backgammon? **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/495 "2012-07-13T15:29:26Z")
Anyone see [today’s xkcd](http://xkcd.com/1081/)? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/496 "2012-07-13T16:22:13Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Ezikiel saw the wheel. This is the wheel he said he [saw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVADz0Afss). Back at the helm, and got to watch it. Intriguing, and the movie _Knowing_ totally ripped that off; albeit lousily. Since an Old Testament prophet saw a Mobius Onion in the sky (deep fried with a side of ranch), and there are UFO sightings all over in the modern age, it’s the most likely and reasonable conclusion to believe in alien visitations. Of which Xenu is. brb, I have to go get audited by my local CoS branch, wish me luck!.. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/497 "2012-07-13T16:31:50Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Back at the helm, and got to watch it. Intriguing, and the movie _Knowing_ totally ripped that off; albeit lousily. > > Since an Old Testament prophet saw a Mobius Onion in the sky (deep fried with a side of ranch), and there are UFO sightings all over in the modern age, it’s the most likely and reasonable conclusion to believe in alien visitations. > > Of which Xenu is. > > brb, I have to go get audited by my local CoS branch, wish me luck!.. You will be fine if you have the time and most importantly the money **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/498 "2012-07-13T16:48:08Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Ok. I’ve made my point about how many nations there are and how many heads of state there are. I’ve also made my point about how, as head of state of a superpower (currently the world’s only superpower), Barack Obama is, arguably, the most powerful person on earth. I want to make my point (which I know will be disputed) that the Illuminati is above Barack Obama and that _someone_ is above the Illuminati and that that _someone_ is a power-unto-themself. > > I can only describe (for the third time) the Illuminati as I did to **iiandyiii** - as being like Bob Gray. > > Yes, Gaddafi defied the Illuminati. Saddam Hussein also defied the Illuminati. The Iraq War, of course, wasn’t just about getting Hussein dead. The broader point, which I have been trying to make, is that Gadaffi, Hussein, and all other heads of state are pawns. And (hopefully for the last time) I’m stating that none of the 192 governments of the world was behind the Sept. 11 attacks. No superpower - not even one of the great powers - was behind the Sept. 11 attacks. No longer are nations needed to explain events. There is a plate of 12 chocolate chip cookies on the table. In the cookies, there is 1 cup of flour, 2 eggs, 3 cups of sugar, and 1/2 cup of butter. The chocolate chips are 63% chocolate, semi-sweet. Now, do you see how I’ve made my point about how many chocolate chip cookies there are and how they were made by time traveling space aliens? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/499 "2012-07-13T17:05:41Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > You will be fine if you have the time and most importantly the money > **CAPT** I’m short on both. I’ll just continue to nap a lot instead. Maybe hit the waterpark. Wheeee! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/500 "2012-07-13T17:10:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You’ll never be done with it-it’s a Moebius Onion that leads back to itself. Even worse - _there’s another onion that They don’t want us to know about._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=26)