# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/561 "2012-07-16T01:02:06Z")
This is like Clueless George, my co-worker, who tries to convince me he’s right by endlessly repeating his one sentence opinion, over and over, slowly increasing in vehemence. It doesn’t convince anyone of jack shit. It isn’t an argument. It is merely repetition of a statement of opinion. But of course, as with Kosmik here, I have to say that **behavior that is rewarded is repeated** , so like with CG, I can only assume that when people around him say “OK, whatever” or “alright, fine” it is being viewed as a victory and that they are agreeing with him. When they’re really just trying to get him to shut up and go away. Only that doesn’t really work here. Well, unless people all stopped responding, in which case I’d bet money that sometime down the road, Kosmik would try to claim that it was because he had successfully made his case. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/562 "2012-07-16T03:51:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Well, you’d need coherent beliefs, and then you’d need to explain them in a manner that would allow someone else to follow your logic. Do you mean that one belief follows from another belief? > [@Marley23](#): > > These aren’t facts. They don’t follow from ‘Al Qaeda was behind September 11th’ and you don’t explain how they relate to each other. Ok. I will. > [@Marley23](#): > > Everybody agrees there are governments and corporations. Not everyone agrees the same thing about governments and [corporations](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15267658&postcount=480), though. Note: I am not saying that that poster is agreeing or disagreeing with me. Let that poster clarify for themself. > [@Marley23](#): > > And now we’ve arrived at batshit crazy. If you’re going to annoy people with this stuff, have the courtesy to annoy someone who is being paid to listen and can do something to help you with these delusions.. What’s crazy about it? > [@Marley23](#): > > They don’t run the student newspaper Not directly. There are secret societies on some college campuses. A reporter quit the student newspaper because of it. There is an editorial policy that if the Editor in Chief is a member of a secret society he or she cannot edit articles about the secret society. > [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t care… I don’t care… and I don’t care.. You don’t care what she wrote about? You’re a very nice person, **Marley**. > [@Marley23](#): > > They’re not subversive, they’re _STUPID_. You believe my political beliefs are stupid? Why? > [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > The Morsi thing for instance, can you admit that you are wrong about that? I would not have wrote about “the Morsi thing” if “the Morsi thing” was not in _The New York Times_. > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Once again **Kozmik** , you are listing your beliefs. You are not explaining them. We know that you believe these things, people want to know _why_. Ok. > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Merely repeating a list doesn’t give any insight into your logic. you’ve made this list of your beliefs many times in this thread. Please explain why you find these beliefs so compelling. I’m going to explain in this thread why I find my political beliefs so compelling. I’m going to state my political beliefs in another thread. > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > why continue to post in it? I’m going to post in another thread my political beliefs and I’m going to post is this thread why I find my political beliefs so compelling. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/563 "2012-07-16T04:31:24Z")
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m on the edge of my stool. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/564 "2012-07-16T04:50:50Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > You guys _don’t get it_! > > You see a picture of politicians shaking hands, but what you don’t know is that they were actually _talking_ before they shook hands! And they might have shaken hands previously, but THERE IS NO PHOTOGRAPH of that! Why not? I think it’s obvious that they wanted to keep those other handshakes secret. > > We have no way of knowing how many possible handshakes there could have been, or what they discussed during those earlier handshakes, but all of the above evidence proves that it was **aliens**! > > QED. Oh it’s all about the “secret” handshake, now i get it…! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/565 "2012-07-16T05:43:41Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Do you mean that one belief follows from another belief? None of your beliefs follow from each other. > [@](#): > > Ok. I will. Right, you’ve just been biding your time for 20 pages. You have no argument, you have no evidence. You were asked to put your cards on the table dozens of times and you never did, and that’s because it’s all in your head. > [@](#): > > You believe my political beliefs are stupid? Why? These aren’t political beliefs. But yes, your beliefs about conspiracies are stupid, and I’ve already explained why. I’m not going to slow down and spell it out for you yet again. That’d be condescending. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/566 "2012-07-16T11:07:53Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m on the edge of my stool. Keep your odd feces fetishes to yourself, bud. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/567 "2012-07-16T11:20:20Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Ok. I will. No, you won’t. You haven’t done so in the 20 pages of this thread, or the previous thread that prompted this one. There’s no logical connection between what you see as key points, there’s no evidence, there’s nothing unexplained that needs explaining. You have nothing. The more you post, the less you have. It’s really getting tiresome, and this thread is just a rehash of the previous one, where you blathered on for 20 pages presenting no information and spouted random non-sequitors. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/568 "2012-07-16T11:31:28Z")
Is it just me, or was this the first mention of “campus secret societies” in connection with the world wide network of Illunimnati influence? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/569 "2012-07-16T11:54:28Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > No, you won’t. You haven’t done so in the 20 pages of this thread, or the previous thread that prompted this one. There’s no logical connection between what you see as key points, there’s no evidence, there’s nothing unexplained that needs explaining. You have nothing. The more you post, the less you have. > > It’s really getting tiresome, and this thread is just a rehash of the previous one, where you blathered on for 20 pages presenting no information and spouted random non-sequitors. Maybe you missed the part about the 192 governments. That’s a crucial point that shouldn’t be overlooked. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/570 "2012-07-16T12:18:09Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Maybe you missed the part about the 192 governments. That’s a crucial point that shouldn’t be overlooked. Especially crucial is the disappearance of 50 of them since his earlier 242 governments posts. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/571 "2012-07-16T12:44:07Z")
It is of dubious coincidence :dubious: that while I was out on the back yard Saturday night repotting plants and listening to rock n’ roll radio, an unmarked helicopter flew slowly not more than 200 feet directly overhead. Just a few weeks ago, a black unmarked helicopter flew directly overhead as I was driving on an interstate near home. In both instances, I had posted to conspiracy threads on the Dope within hours of each overflight. Since I have been derisively and condescendingly supporting the Illuminati agenda by denying its existence, these overflights can only represent an attempt to stage a money drop to support Internet denial and concealment activities. But I don’t understand why they can’t just send me a check in the mail. 😕:smack: ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/572 "2012-07-16T13:05:16Z")
I have unmarked helicopters overflying my house every day. It could be because of an ancient supra-national conspiracy, of due to the fact that I lve about five miles from Sikorsky’s main plany. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/573 "2012-07-16T13:18:11Z")
There are 192 governments in the world. The 192 governments can be categorized into emerging superpowers, superpowers, great powers, regional powers, middle powers, and small powers. China and India are emerging superpowers (currently the only emerging superpowers in the world). The United States is a superpower (currently the only superpower in the world). Russia, Japan, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and Italy are great powers. Mexico, the Philippines, Egypt, Iran, Canada, North Korea, Australia, and Israel (among other governments) are regional powers. Uganda, Venezuela, Romania, Cambodia, Greece, Hungary, Sweden, and Jordan (among other governments) are middle powers. Honduras, Serbia, Laos, El Salvador, Slovakia, Panama, and Mongolia (among other governments) are small powers. According to the realist theory of international relations, a small power cannot affect the international system alone but with some concerted effort a small power can have an impact on the way the system works. According to the realist theory of international relations, it would follow that a great power can affect the international system alone. Governments appear to be the primary locus of war, i.e. the Iraq War and the Korean War. Emerging superpowers, superpowers, and great powers would seem to have the most influence over wars. Regional powers, middle powers, and small powers would seem to have the least influence over wars. There are 192 heads of government. By virtue of being the head of government of a superpower (currently the only superpower in the world), Barack Obama is, perhaps, the most powerful person on earth. The September 11, 2001 attacks indicate that the head of government of a superpower is, perhaps, not the most powerful person on earth. If Barack Obama is not the most powerful person on earth than _someone else_, perhaps, is the most powerful person on earth. If _someone else_ is the most powerful person on earth than there is, perhaps, an entity that is above the 192 governments. If there is an entity that is above the 192 governments then that entity would be a hyperpower. There is an entity that is above the 192 governments. That entity is the Illuminati. The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany indicate that the Illuminati exist. The Illuminati is a hyperpower. A hyperpower is not a government. A hyperpower is the direct opposite of a small power. A small power cannot affect the international system alone but with some concerted effort a small power can have an (perceived) impact on the way the system works. The Illuminati _is_ the system. The Illuminati control the 192 heads of government. The Illuminati has more influence over wars than all the emerging superpowers, superpowers, and great powers combined. The Illuminati has more influence over every single person on earth (except _someone_) than all the emerging superpowers, superpowers, and great powers combined. My theory of international relations (based on the realist theory of international relations) asserts that governments are perceived to be the main power players in international politics. The 192 heads of government are perceived to be the main power players in international politics. The Illuminati is the actual power player in international politics. The Illuminati is above Barack Obama. _Someone_ is above the Illuminati. That _someone_ is a power-unto-themself and is thus the most powerful person on earth. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/574 "2012-07-16T13:25:17Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Especially crucial is the disappearance of 50 of them since his earlier 242 governments posts. Are you saying that if I find a better cite than Wikipedia then I shouldn’t use the better cite?? ---
**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/575 "2012-07-16T13:26:45Z")
Dammit, guys, he figured it out! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/576 "2012-07-16T13:28:25Z")
Now that you used the magic colors, it all makes sense now. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/577 "2012-07-16T13:30:51Z")
You forgot Brazil. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/578 "2012-07-16T13:32:40Z")
well of course what else could it be. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/579 "2012-07-16T13:39:01Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > The September 11, 2001 attacks indicate that the head of government of a superpower is, perhaps, not the most powerful person on earth. No, they indicate that the most powerful person on earth is perhaps not omnipotent. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/580 "2012-07-16T13:39:50Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Are you saying that if I find a better cite than Wikipedia then I shouldn’t use the better cite?? Your cites don’t make any sense. Not the websites that the facts are hosted on, it is the fact that you frequently try to prove things that are not logically connected with the matter at hand. I don’t understand [how this eludes you.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=30)