# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/981 "2012-07-26T14:05:53Z")
And the hamster is on acid. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/982 "2012-07-26T14:16:25Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > he can’t visualize complex systems, so he invents simple ones. I can visualize a closed G-192 summit. **tomndebb** can [visualize](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15310429&postcount=936) a closed G-192 summit, too. (Even though **tomndebb** disagreed that they could do anything.) ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/983 "2012-07-26T14:22:05Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I can visualize a closed G-192 summit. **tomndebb** can [visualize](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15310429&postcount=936) a closed G-192 summit, too. (Even though **tomndebb** disagreed that they could do anything.) 192 heads of state meeting in a room to conduct world affairs _is a simple system_ compared to the real world. It’s simple, it is convenient, and it’s impossible. The real world is much messier and doesn’t have a ruler. Anyone can visualize silly things like the G-192, but it doesn’t make it any more possible. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/984 "2012-07-26T14:22:10Z")
The leader of North Korea would never admit to other world leaders that an outsider group controls him. He wouldn’t even step into that room. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/985 "2012-07-26T14:25:50Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I can visualize a closed G-192 summit. I think we know at this point that you can visualize a lot of things that are not actually there- the problem is that you can’t tell the difference between what you’re imagining and what is really out there. Nobody else in the thread thinks this concept is even plausible. Whether it’s imaginable isn’t relevant to your theory. ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/986 "2012-07-26T14:29:48Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > It’s our schtick. You know, all that “fighting ignorance” stuff. > > and shit. Fighting ignorance is useless if someone is willfully ignorant and isn’t capable of putting two and two together, no matter how much evidence you throw at him. This thread is 20 pages long and the old one was 8, according to the first link. Nearly 30 pages of throwing reason at a brick wall. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/987 "2012-07-26T14:33:43Z")
> [@HansGrosse](#): > > Fighting ignorance is useless if someone is willfully ignorant and isn’t capable of putting two and two together, no matter how much evidence you throw at him. > > This thread is 20 pages long and the old one was 8, according to the first link. Nearly 30 pages of throwing reason at a brick wall. I can think of better ways to spend one’s time. Some say that if you leave Stupid alone it will eventually go away, but I’ve lived long enough to know that instead it will gain an audience and spread like smallpox. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/988 "2012-07-26T14:35:46Z")
Illuminati: Establishing a New World Order since 1776 It’s taking much longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/989 "2012-07-26T14:36:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Some say that if you leave Stupid alone it will eventually go away, but I’ve lived long enough to know that instead it will gain an audience and spread like smallpox. Perhaps. But when it comes to conspiracy-theory nonsense, most people understand that it is indeed nonsense. The kind of people who partake in that audience otherwise are likely already long gone upstairs. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/990 "2012-07-26T14:37:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Some say that if you leave Stupid alone it will eventually go away, but I’ve lived long enough to know that instead it will gain an audience and spread like smallpox. Oh, come on. People are posting in this thread because they like looking at trainwrecks and baiting crazy people. Please don’t dress it up as some noble crusade. There is no chance of Kozmik’s incoherent ideas spreading further, even among other CT’s. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/991 "2012-07-26T14:39:25Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Nobody else in the thread thinks this concept is even plausible. A closed meeting [can](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15307522&postcount=917) happen. What are you going to do now **Marley** , disagree with **Great Antibob**? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/992 "2012-07-26T14:42:02Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > A closed meeting [can](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15307522&postcount=917) happen. Closed meetings happen all the time. A closed meeting of the G-192 cannot happen. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/993 "2012-07-26T14:42:33Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > What are you going to do now **Marley** , disagree with **Great Antibob**? 😃 **Great Antibob** agreed that your proposed secret meeting was impossible, and it looks like everybody agrees you’re talking a bunch of bullshit about a meeting that never happened and never will happen. Notice how you’re failing at convincing people of your conspiracy and succeeding at convincing them you need psychiatric help? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/994 "2012-07-26T14:44:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > a meeting that never happened and never will happen Notice that just because a meeting never happened, it does not follow that it never will happen. Looks like **Telemark** and **Marley** can’t keep their stories straight! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/995 "2012-07-26T14:45:52Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Notice that just because a meeting never happened, it does not follow that it never will happen. It will never happen because there is no G-192 and the conspiracy doesn’t exist. That’s why you’re wasting all this time arguing that it _could_ happen - because you have no evidence it’s real even though you keep saying it is. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/996 "2012-07-26T14:50:11Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > there is no G-192 There is a G-192. There is no G-192 summit. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/997 "2012-07-26T14:52:06Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I can visualize a closed G-192 summit. **tomndebb** can [visualize](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15310429&postcount=936) a closed G-192 summit, too. (Even though **tomndebb** disagreed that they could do anything.) A G-192 summit is simple (if impossible) Can you visualize the various factors that led to the current euro crisis? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/998 "2012-07-26T14:53:00Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Oh, come on. People are posting in this thread because they like looking at trainwrecks and baiting crazy people. Please don’t dress it up as some noble crusade. There is no chance of Kozmik’s incoherent ideas spreading further, even among other CT’s. Bullshit. I’ve seen boards where the bullshit runs unopposed. They aren’t pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/999 "2012-07-26T14:53:05Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > There is a G-192. There is no G-192 summit. This, like pretty much everything else you’ve written in this thread, is meaningless. There may be 192 countries but there is no G-192 organization. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1000 "2012-07-26T14:54:24Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > There is a G-192. No there isn’t, and a Google search would have cleared that up for you. There are 192 countries; there is no formal organization of thse countries similar to the G-8 or G-20. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=51)