# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1061 "2012-07-27T11:53:54Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > …a thought experiment on his part to convince \*us \*of the existence of his Illuminati Primus. The Illuminati Primus - small, yet all powerful…192 miles to the gallon…the car They Don’t Want You To Know About! At dealers somewhere, we’re just not going to tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1062 "2012-07-27T12:53:35Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Because all the other heads of government will be attending the meeting. The President of Iran and the Prime Minister of Israel [were](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_delegates_to_the_Millennium_Summit) in a meeting together. That is about as asinine as saying that me having lunch with Chefguy is evidence that all the Dopers have met in one place at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1063 "2012-07-27T13:42:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That is about as asinine as saying that me having lunch with Chefguy is evidence that all the Dopers have met in one place at the same time. \*\*Koz \*\*is not claiming the G-192 meeting has occurred. He is saying it will happen at some unspecified but imminent date in the future. His certainty about this makes me suspect that he is, in truth, the unnamed organizer and Illuminati Primus. Which makes this entire thread a double-blind reverse disinformation ruse. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![PacifistPorcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PacifistPorcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PacifistPorcupine)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1064 "2012-07-27T13:49:38Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Money can be destroyed, power can be lost, one thing remains. Love? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1065 "2012-07-27T13:54:25Z")
> [@PacifistPorcupine](#): > > Love? No, styrofoam. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1066 "2012-07-27T13:58:36Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > No, styrofoam. Plastics ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1067 "2012-07-27T14:50:27Z")
Boobs. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1068 "2012-07-27T14:53:11Z")
Twinkies ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1069 "2012-07-27T15:04:20Z")
**Kozmik** , just because something is possible doesn’t mean it’s true, or even remotely likely. Do you understand this? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1070 "2012-07-27T15:15:44Z")
> [@HansGrosse](#): > > Do you understand this? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1071 "2012-07-27T15:18:12Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Yes. But you’re not going to directly answer my question? ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1072 "2012-07-27T15:20:19Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Yes. So then why are you pressing an argument that is extremely unlikely to be true? Do you realize that a conclusion based on evidence is typically put through what’s called Occam’s Razor? Do you know how Occam’s Razor works and why it’s important? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1073 "2012-07-27T15:25:23Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > **What one thing remains?** The legimimacy that existed behind money and behind power. > [@HansGrosse](#): > > Do you know how Occam’s Razor works and why it’s important? I do. Do you? Apply Occam’s Razor to money and power. ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1074 "2012-07-27T15:26:22Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I do. Do you? Apply Occam’s Razor to money and power. That… doesn’t make any sense at all. That’s like me telling you “Apply the Pythagorean Theorem to my hamster.” I’m asking you to explain Occam’s Razor and why it’s important. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1075 "2012-07-27T15:38:46Z")
This is a live action Turing Test, right? I’m not buying that any actual human being is coming up with these answers. It has to be a machine that’s programmed to put out vague, cryptic answers to direct questions. ---
**Author:** ![HansGrosse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@HansGrosse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansGrosse)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1076 "2012-07-27T15:39:47Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > This is a live action Turing Test, right? > > I’m not buying that any actual human being is coming up with these answers. It has to be a machine that’s programmed to put out vague, cryptic answers to direct questions. If his response is something along the lines of, “But how do you feel about hamsters?” I think you might be right. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1077 "2012-07-27T16:29:40Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > And they would be protecting him by guarding the building where the meeting is behind held and making sure that no one but heads of government are allowed in. This has already been [asked and answered](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=133264&highlight=President+Secret+Service+overrule) here. But then the meeting wouldn’t be secret. You have now tossed out your entire “theory.” The 192 (drink!) would know. All of their security would know. Do you have any idea how much logistics go into moving the president? I do. I have been involved in security on two presidential visits. It is ridiculous how much goes into it. And you still haven’t answered how you think all these people will talk to each other. Do you believe all 192(drink!) secretly know Esperanto? Do you have any idea how many people would have to be involved in this conspiracy? They might as well let everyone know since more than half of the population is already in on it. > [@Kozmik](#): > > Take the theory to its logical extreme. > > How would [that](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_in_international_relations#Realism) theory apply to the G-192 summit? As usual you leave out the parts of the quote you don’t like. Not an honest debate technique. > [@Kozmik](#): > > Two Dopers actually got it!! > > You literally wrote it better than I could myself. > > In two sentences, **Marley** , you condense my entire argument. You aren’t condenscending anymore! 😃 As you have done many times you have confused the fact that some people are trying to translate your nonsense into English with them agreeing with you. > [@HansGrosse](#): > > So then why are you pressing an argument that is extremely unlikely to be true? > > Do you realize that a conclusion based on evidence is typically put through what’s called Occam’s Razor? Do you know how Occam’s Razor works and why it’s important? Koz hasn’t just tossed Occam’s Razor, he has thrown out the whole shaving kit. 192 (drink!) ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1078 "2012-07-27T17:16:15Z")
I suggest we switch to shots of beer rather than liquor while we’re at it, before someone dies. Also, I suggest we add variations on “but it cooooould be” to the list of [del]killing words[/del] drinking phrases. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1079 "2012-07-27T17:32:20Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I suggest we switch to shots of beer rather than liquor while we’re at it, before someone dies. Also, I suggest we add variations on “but it cooooould be” to the list of [del]killing words[/del] drinking phrases. _192 heads of state in the world 192 heads of state Take one down, rotate around 192 heads of state in the world_ Now everybody! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1080 "2012-07-27T17:35:28Z")
\*192 heads of state in the world 192 heads of state unless you read earlier in the thread where he claimed it was 241\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=55)