# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1081 "2012-07-27T17:45:19Z")
We’re gonna need a bigger boat. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1082 "2012-07-27T18:03:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > \*192 heads of state in the world > 192 heads of state > unless you read > earlier in the thread > > where he claimed it was 241\* Well, you know, it coooooould be that there are several dozen hidden, Illuminati countries beyond the 192 which are, of course, in a hypothetical meeting which has never actually occurred, beholden to the Primus. It coooooould be that these hidden micro-nations are where all the members of the Illuminati live. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1083 "2012-07-27T19:15:13Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Well, you know, it coooooould be that there are several dozen hidden, Illuminati countries beyond the 192 which are, of course, in a hypothetical meeting which has never actually occurred, beholden to the Primus. It coooooould be that these hidden micro-nations are where all the members of the Illuminati live. Atlantis??!! :eek: CONNECT THE DOTS!! Kosmik knows what I mean, right? I’m going to start trying to post on his level. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1084 "2012-07-27T19:53:11Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Atlantis??!! :eek: > > CONNECT THE DOTS!! > > Kosmik knows what I mean, right? > I’m going to start trying to post on his level. You need to[link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15319286&postcount=1077) to previous posts that in no way support your current posts. Then mention there are 192 countries again. Hold on a sec I gotta throw up before I can drink any more. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1085 "2012-07-27T19:53:57Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Kosmik knows what I mean, right? Well he does _now_. Now that you’ve conjured up the mere possibility of something has driven it into existence, he has no choice but believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1086 "2012-07-27T20:06:33Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > You need to[link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15319286&postcount=1077) to previous posts that in no way support your current posts. Then mention there are 192 countries again. > > Hold on a sec I gotta throw up before I can drink any more. 1. You forgot to count the Atlantean states. Wolverine. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1087 "2012-07-27T20:17:02Z")
Concerning Sleep Country-is each individual franchise considered a separate country? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1088 "2012-07-27T20:30:58Z")
Yes but they’re only virtual countries, because they’re really all controlled from Illuminati Central by their nefarious Dream Machine. Didn’t you see how Morpheus, the Lord of Dreams, was in charge of locating The One in The Matrix? What, do I have to draw you a map? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1089 "2012-07-27T22:28:10Z")
[/COLOR] > [@Kozmik](#): > > The legimimacy that existed behind money and behind power. Legitimacy of _what,_ exactly? IOW… bwah? 😕 > [@Kozmik](#): > > I do. Do you? Apply Occam’s Razor to money and power. “Hey kid, here’s an axe to split that pile of logs over there. But only split the wood that splits the easiest. Discard the others.” “Okay, mister!” **Looks around, absolutely no logs in sight.** “Ummm… mister?” (whispers suspiciously—pointing up) “The cats… they’re… crawling on the skyyy…” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1090 "2012-07-28T02:29:05Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > . . . What, do I have to draw you a map? I know where Scythia-Pannonia-Transbalkania is, but where are Graustark and Ruritania? And Erewhon? How do you get to Erewhon? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1091 "2012-07-28T03:50:48Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > And Erewhon? How do you get to Erewhon? Take a left at Freedonia. (Appropos of nothing, anyone remember when SPY magazine asked Congressional Representatives from 1994’s freshmen class for their opinions on how the US should handle the ethnic cleansing in Freedonia?) ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1092 "2012-07-28T05:37:37Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Legitimacy of _what,_ exactly? Of the 192 heads of government and of the people that they, supposedly, represent. Of democracy. Of legitimacy itself. > [@Loach](#): > > As you have done many times you have confused the fact that some people are trying to translate your nonsense into English with them agreeing with you. Some people are “translating” my posts and, perhaps, some other people will agree with me. Or, perhaps, some other people will not agree with me and neither will they agree with you. What then? > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > This is a live action Turing Test, right? > > I’m not buying that any actual human being is coming up with these answers. It has to be a machine that’s programmed to put out vague, cryptic answers to direct questions. Except **cymk** met me. > [@Marley23](#): > > Uh huh. Why couldn’t you have done it in your first post? Were you too demented, or too convinced this shit would blow everybody’s mind? It doesn’t speak well for your argument that you keep insisting it meant something else and that people “get it!” at random. I knew that some people would understand my argument and not accept it. So I have it where some people accept my argument and do not understand it. Once those people understand my argument, they can either agree with it or disagree with it, and, hopefully, explain _why_ they agree with it or disagree with it. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1093 "2012-07-28T06:45:57Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The Illuminati Primus - small, yet all powerful…192 miles to the gallon…the car They Don’t Want You To Know About! At dealers somewhere, we’re just not going to tell you. Miles to the gallon - hell, [the government hs a car that runs on water, man.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmrwMfNxrI) ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1094 "2012-07-28T08:30:16Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Miles to the gallon - hell, [the government hs a car that runs on water, man.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmrwMfNxrI) And I have a water that runs on car, what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1095 "2012-07-28T13:19:25Z")
I wonder if this is what he meant by “derisive”… ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1096 "2012-07-28T15:01:47Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Except **cymk** met me. He’s part of the Illuminati, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1097 "2012-07-28T23:13:17Z")
**Kos** , could you answer me one question? Is your Illuminati a philosophical concept, meant as a metaphor or a parable? Or do you mean that what you describe is an accurate reflection of how the political world works? Do you recognize that these are not equivalent? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1098 "2012-07-29T02:34:14Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Is your Illuminati a philosophical concept, meant as a metaphor or a parable? It is a philosophical concept; however, it is not meant as a metaphor or a parable. > [@DrFidelius](#): > > Or do you mean that what you describe is an accurate reflection of how the political world works? I mean that what I describe is the ultimate representation of the political system, the G-192 summit. That a meeting where the only people in attendance are the 192 heads of government [(and one Illuminatus)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15317354&postcount=1038) is the highest level of politics. That there is no higher authority than those 192 people. > [@DrFidelius](#): > > Do you recognize that these are not equivalent? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1099 "2012-07-29T02:48:21Z")
Damn, I’m going to have to start my own country or work on becoming head of one of those little nothing countries just so I can go to the meetings. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1100 "2012-07-29T04:41:31Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > He’s part of the Illuminati, for sure. Damn right I am! It took me for-fucking-ever to finally collect and mail (with a SASE) all the Foot Loops™ box tops, too. My decoder ring, scepter of allegence and the optional cape arrived just last week. The tattoo is one of those damp washcloth transfer deals though. A bit disappointing. I put it on my left shoulder, but despite avoiding washing that area, it’s just a blurry smudge… You can barely even make out the unicorn anymore. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=56)