# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1121 "2012-08-01T04:23:38Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > In the words of Master Shake from ATHF, ‘Why is anything anything?’ “Why?” “Because some things are and some things are not!” “Why?” “Because things that are not can’t be!” “Why?” “Because then nothing wouldn’t be! You can’t have fuckin’ nothing isn’t! Everything is!” ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1122 "2012-08-01T11:31:32Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Omigod, that’s it! The 193d member is… > > THE ILLUMINATUS! :eek: RUN!!! :eek: So, the 193rd seat is like the extra place set for Elijah at Passover. It all makes sense. Connect the dots! ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1123 "2012-08-01T12:02:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And facts. And coherency. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1124 "2012-08-01T13:02:14Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > So, the 193rd seat is like the extra place set for Elijah at Passover. It all makes sense. Connect the dots! Connect the dots? He can’t even color within the lines. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1125 "2012-08-01T18:33:00Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > The collective will of all 192 (drink!) countries points in all sorts of directions. You may notice that a few of them are in armed conflict with each other, and some are in the process of civil war. So then what would be the collective will of the G-192? What is the collective will of the UN? What is the collective will of NATO? Of the Eurozone? Of the United States? And, specifically, what would be the collective will, if any, of the G-192 summit? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Connect the dots? He can’t even color within the lines. I can connect the dots. G-192 summit ??? Profit! **Marley23** understood what I was getting at in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15316097&postcount=1025) post. That there is no higher legitimacy than the G-192. That there could only be 192 people at the G-192 summit unless there is the Illuminati. That the G-192 summit would be self-contained unless there is the Illuminati. [Anarchy (international relations)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_(international_relations)) > [@](#): > > The Realist theory of international relations asserts that states are the main power players in international politics. The modified Realist theory of international relations asserts that the G-192 are the main power players in international politics. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1126 "2012-08-01T18:38:13Z")
You can’t modify the realist theory of international relations for the G-192, for three reasons: 1. That’s not the commonly understood definition of realism; 2. the G-192 does not exist; and 3. people who have a tenuous grasp on the real world don’t get to re-write mainstream academic theories. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1127 "2012-11-02T17:47:52Z")
So, I’ve been skimming along this thread and I think **Kozmik** ’s thoughts on his theory about world politics generated like this: 1. He was a happy college kid, believing that the U.S. was the most powerful entity in the world (true, but incomplete in my view) 2. This powerful entity answers to the most powerful individual in the world (the President, of course) 3. Suddenly, something happened! (9/11) which was both tragic and a show of power and not controlled by the most powerful individual in the world! 4. Therefore (since, obviously, nothing can happen which the most powerful individual in the world can’t control), there have to be individual(s) who are more powerful than this supposedly powerful individual 5. This led to frantic searches on the internets, reassigning of “most powerful” status, assigning of “most truthiness in the world” (NYT, Wikipedia and/or Encyclopedia Brittanica), etc. **Kozmik** clearly hadn’t had this thought process before 9/11, but probably anything could have triggered this thought process. I believe it’s a security blanket, which helps \*\*Kozmik \*\* to cope with the lack of control we all have (in some degree or other) of our lives. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1128 "2012-11-02T18:11:50Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > **Marley23** understood what I was getting at in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15316097&postcount=1025) post. Since someone else has bumped this post… no, I didn’t. Nowhere in that post did I say I had any idea what you were getting at and I gave a bunch of reasons it was impossible and made no sense at all. Unless you mean this part: > [@Marley23](#): > > **Kozmik** has been asked about this and issues related to it and keeps dodging the question so he can post more deluded bullshit about it’s possible because he’s getting secret messages in his Thomas’ English Muffins that say it’s sooth. Even after 20 pages, **Kozmik** , I get the sense you’re holding back on what you really think. I assume that’s because you understand everybody else would think it’s crazy. That’s why you’re arguing about plausibility rather than just stating your opinions on how the the Illuminati caused the world wars and the Civil War, right? In which case I understood it just fine. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1129 "2012-11-02T19:09:57Z")
There are two possibilities: -Kozmik is just trolling us, and all his links to “here this poster supports me” are purposefully wrong. He’s just winding us up. -Kozmik is actually as insane as he seems to be, and has suffered a total disconnect from reality which he has not yet recovered from. I’m not sure I see the logic in either case for feeding him or allowing him to start these insane threads anymore. /$.02 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1130 "2012-11-02T19:27:15Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > There are two possibilities: > -Kozmik is just trolling us, and all his links to “here this poster supports me” are purposefully wrong. He’s just winding us up. > -Kozmik is actually as insane as he seems to be, and has suffered a total disconnect from reality which he has not yet recovered from. > > I’m not sure I see the logic in either case for feeding him or allowing him to start these insane threads anymore. > > /$.02 Quite right. Shouldn’t have done it. ---
**Author:** ![theLuckyWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@theLuckyWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theLuckyWalker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1131 "2012-11-04T03:12:45Z")
Hello anyone! I was posting on another thread an hour ago and suddenly I received a call on my cell phone (number blocked) from one of the other posters. A threatening phone call. Can anyone tell me how that person was able to get my phone number? I don’t even have it in my profile! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1132 "2012-11-04T12:08:48Z")
> [@drlarson](#): > > Hello anyone! I was posting on another thread an hour ago and suddenly I received a call on my cell phone (number blocked) from one of the other posters. A threatening phone call. Can anyone tell me how that person was able to get my phone number? I don’t even have it in my profile! That call. . .came from _inside your house_!!!:eek: ---
**Author:** ![theLuckyWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@theLuckyWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theLuckyWalker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1133 "2012-11-04T13:48:03Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > That call. . .came from _inside your house_!!!:eek: Hahaha! I see how she got my number now: My email address consisting of my full name is in my profile. From there it’s easy. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1134 "2012-11-04T14:03:06Z")
What does any of that have to do with any of this? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1135 "2012-11-04T14:10:01Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > What does any of that have to do with any of this? 😕 It’s all a massive conspiracy, duh. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1136 "2012-11-04T14:29:39Z")
nm… ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1137 "2012-11-04T15:16:42Z")
> [@drlarson](#): > > Hahaha! I see how she got my number now: My email address consisting of my full name is in my profile. From there it’s easy. get OUT! :eek: you mean when you put your information on the internet people can read it? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1138 "2012-11-04T16:36:52Z")
Shit, he gets phone calls. I get restraining orders. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/1139 "2012-11-04T17:00:11Z")
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