# I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653 "2012-06-29T02:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/141 "2012-07-03T22:36:54Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Don’t fucking patronize me, man! I’m not patronizing you, bro, I am reminding you of the actual history you are mangling and overcomplicating with this conspiracy theory bullshit. If I were patronizing you, I would say something like, “ **Kozmik** , I’m concerned for your personal well-being. Are you OK? Are you sleeping well? Have you discussed these feeling with a qualified mental health professional?” And I actually do think you need to talk to a therapist or a psychiatrist, I just wouldn’t phrase it in that kind of patronizing way. You’re coming off as a crazy person. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/142 "2012-07-03T22:42:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I… don’t really think you’ve supported your argument. I dunno - we’re at 141 now and he seems to be supporting his argument damn well. I just don’t think that argument is the argument he thinks it is. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/143 "2012-07-03T22:43:22Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > It does not prove it; however, it is **evidence** for it. There’s more evidence that you’re a total fucking retard, and yet you continue to deny it while offering further evidence that it is true. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/144 "2012-07-03T22:53:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You’re coming off as a crazy person. Because I believe [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15233026&postcount=103)? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/145 "2012-07-03T22:54:46Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Because I believe [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15233026&postcount=103)? That’s a big chunk of the reason, but not all of it. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/146 "2012-07-03T22:56:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That’s a big chunk of the reason Please explain. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/147 "2012-07-03T23:00:11Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > . . . You’re coming off as a crazy person. I think he’s coming off as a laid-back, easy-going, “Head” type dude, attempting to be coy, wise, cagey, profound, cool, Socratic, observant, and insightful. He’s trying to be the boy who first says, “The emperor isn’t wearing any clothes.” He screwed up by making a concrete claim. His style of Wow, Dude, It’s Zen! doesn’t work when you actually make a real prediction. It’s so Cosmic, y’know? He should have fallen back to, “How do we know what we know?” and “Those who know don’t tell; those who tell don’t know” and “Four can keep a secret when three are dead” and “What we know is only a small part of what it true.” Darlin’ boy, but blew it by claiming something that actually can be known. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/148 "2012-07-03T23:06:48Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Please explain. I’m not sure how well I can explain it to you because I doubt you would choose to act like a paranoid lunatic if you felt that that’s what you were doing. But for the record, you’re coming off as a paranoid lunatic who thinks a small cabal of people are running the world in concert (in real life, these people have nothing to do with each other), and the evidence you have posted in support of your mental health - your relationship with the editor of the student newspaper and that moment, or whatever it was, with one of his colleagues - don’t make you sound healthier, they make you sound more unstable. That columnist at the student paper didn’t share a deep moment of understanding with you. The editor probably told her about the nutty letters you were writing and from your conversation she realized you were the one crazy letter writer. They were humoring you. All of that probably sounds even more patronizing, but nonetheless, there it is. You’re not posting brilliant insights about geopolitics here. You’re just concocting conspiracies in your head. You are seeing stuff that is not there. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/149 "2012-07-03T23:24:06Z")
How do I join the Illuminati? It sounds pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/150 "2012-07-03T23:38:33Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > How do I join the Illuminati? It sounds pretty cool. I’d tell you, but yanno, first rule of conspiracy club and all. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/151 "2012-07-03T23:40:31Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I’d tell you, but yanno, first rule of conspiracy club and all. How about a PM? I won’t tell anyone. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/152 "2012-07-03T23:49:36Z")
Oh, global conspiracies are real. Very real. I gather these secret world leaders meet at [precisely 4 am.](http://blog.ted.com/2007/07/19/rives_exposes_t_1/) Watch that, and tell me I’m crazy. All you have to do is connect the dots and you’ll see… YOU’LL _ALL_ SEE! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/153 "2012-07-04T00:27:53Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Oh, global conspiracies are real. Very real…All you have to do is connect the dots and you’ll see… YOU’LL _ALL_ SEE! I have already been enlightened, by these revelations: _“…the Vatican is being bombarded and it was a Cardinal that slipped all that inside info out, not the butler as they’re claiming (he had no access to that info, duh.)…The military is on the streets of St. Louis, has made huge arrests already in Denver, Colorado and many other places being blacked out by the media (St. Louis is built on an unknown sacred city and that will be told soon as well, it’s more than likely why they’re there.)…When the Fed and the Vatican go down, it is then that the crimes against humanity will all come to the surface and vaccines will be exposed for what they really are…POISON.”_ Yup, that’s from a thread in another forum on the evils of vaccines. **Kozmik** has a long way to go to equal that level of crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/154 "2012-07-04T00:30:41Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > _“…the Vatican is being bombarded and it was a Cardinal that slipped all that inside info out, not the butler as they’re claiming (he had no access to that info, duh.)…The military is on the streets of St. Louis, has made huge arrests already in Denver, Colorado and many other places being blacked out by the media (St. Louis is built on an unknown sacred city and that will be told soon as well, it’s more than likely why they’re there.)…When the Fed and the Vatican go down, it is then that the crimes against humanity will all come to the surface and vaccines will be exposed for what they really are…POISON.”_ > > Yup, that’s from a thread in another forum on the evils of vaccines. It’s all true. I secretly run a detention camp for arrestees in a spare closet. Must have a couple of hundred in there by now. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/155 "2012-07-04T00:32:43Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > It’s all true. I secretly run a detention camp for arrestees in a spare closet. Must have a couple of hundred in there by now. They’re not people, they’re hippies! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/156 "2012-07-04T00:37:33Z")
They’re in a closet. Just what kind of people do you know who are in the closet? Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/157 "2012-07-04T00:46:52Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > But for the record, you’re coming off as a paranoid lunatic who thinks a small cabal of people are running the world in concert (in real life, these people have nothing to do with each other), and the evidence you have posted in support of your mental health - your relationship with the editor of the student newspaper and that moment, or whatever it was, with one of his colleagues - don’t make you sound healthier, they make you sound more unstable. That columnist at the student paper didn’t share a deep moment of understanding with you. The editor probably told her about the nutty letters you were writing and from your conversation she realized you were the one crazy letter writer. They were humoring you. Care to explain how _The New York Times_ humored me? I send an email. I recieved an email (from one Mary Drohan). I replied. I was published. I did not know her and she did not know me. No relationship. _The New York Times_ does not generally print nutty letters: [QUOTE=The New York Times, July 3, 2012] To the Editor: Bravo to Jimmy Carter for yet again stating the simple truth. I have been shocked and appalled by the dramatic change in the American conscience post-9/11. Even assassination, once an outright abrogation of human rights, has now become an achievement on which to run for re-election. … … MIRIAM LAWRENCE New York, June 25, 2012 [/QUOTE] YMMV That columnist and me shared a moment of understanding… about the future. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/158 "2012-07-04T00:55:55Z")
Jimmy Carter is the head of the Illuminati. You fell right into their trap. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/159 "2012-07-04T01:21:24Z")
For reference, the relevant [NY Times letters page](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/opinion/americas-record-on-human-rights.html?ref=letters). If **Kozmik** claims to be that person, fine, the letter wasn’t nutty. Of course, the version that particular letter that was published also didn’t claim mention anything about the Illuminati, secretive cabals, conspiracies of any sort, etc. If it had included any of it, it’s been selectively edited. Secretive Illuminati censorship or editor wanting to ignore the crazy? You be the judge. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653/160 "2012-07-04T01:38:48Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > For reference, the relevant [NY Times letters page](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/opinion/americas-record-on-human-rights.html?ref=letters). > > If **Kozmik** claims to be that person, fine, the letter wasn’t nutty. > > Of course, the version that particular letter that was published also didn’t claim mention anything about the Illuminati, secretive cabals, conspiracies of any sort, etc. > > If it had included any of it, it’s been selectively edited. Secretive Illuminati censorship or editor wanting to ignore the crazy? You be the judge. [QUOTE=George W. Bush, My Life, page 44] I quickly tracked down a copy and was greeted by the screaming headline: “Fighting the Wimp Factor.” I couldn’t believe it. The magazine was insinuating that my father, a World War II bomber pilot, was a wimp. I was red-hot. I got Margaret on the phone. She politely asked what I thought of the story. I impolitely told her I thought she was part of a political ambush. She muttered somthing about her editors being responsbile for the cover. I did not mutter. I railed about editors and hung up. From then on, I was suspicious of political journalists and their unseen editors. [/QUOTE] George W. Bush was certaintly acting nutty. Third rule of politics: Always be nice to the editor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-derisive-condenscending-anti-conspiriacy-merged-threads/626653.md?page=9)