# I pit the dumb fucks in Congress **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531 "2007-05-02T21:20:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/1 "2007-05-02T21:20:16Z")
> [@](#): > > WASHINGTON - Congress failed to override President Bush’s veto of legislation requiring the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on Wednesday, a defeat for anti-war Democrats that triggered immediate talks on a new measure to fund the conflict. You stupid assholes had no business sending that bill to the President in the first place. All you accomplished by doing so was: 1. A public demonstration of your ignorance of the Constitution of the United States. 2. A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harm’s way, and are willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look bad. Fuck each and every one of you with a splintery broomstick. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/2 "2007-05-02T21:30:40Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] 1. A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harm’s way, and are willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look bad. [/QUOTE] So trying to get them OUT of harms way proves to you that they don’t give a rat’s ass about the troops that ARE in harm’s way? Interesting logic. ---
**Author:** ![Renob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Renob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renob)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/3 "2007-05-02T21:47:36Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] 1. A public demonstration of your ignorance of the Constitution of the United States. [/QUOTE] Regardless of the merits of the bill, how was sending a bill to the President showing ignorance of the Constitution? Congress was playing its constitutional role and the President was playing his. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/4 "2007-05-02T21:52:54Z")
> [@AP? Who knows](#): > > …legislation requiring the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on Wednesday… Of course the Prez vetoed it. I bet his Wednesday was already full. ---
**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/5 "2007-05-02T22:16:57Z")
Please don’t breed. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/6 "2007-05-02T22:17:58Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] the troops that are in harm’s way… [/QUOTE] How’d that happen, I wonder? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/7 "2007-05-02T22:20:49Z")
[QUOTE=niblet\_head] Of course the Prez vetoed it. I bet his Wednesday was already full. [/QUOTE] Talk about your quick withdrawals. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/8 "2007-05-02T22:22:48Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] Talk about your quick withdrawals. [/QUOTE] I see, make it about Clinton! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/9 "2007-05-02T22:24:15Z")
You (stupid poster) had no business starting this thread in the first place. All you accomplished by doing so was: 1. A public demonstration of your ignorance of the Constitution of the United States. 2. A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harm’s way, and are willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look good. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/10 "2007-05-02T22:25:55Z")
[QUOTE=Renob] Regardless of the merits of the bill, how was sending a bill to the President showing ignorance of the Constitution? Congress was playing its constitutional role and the President was playing his. [/QUOTE] Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution: > [@](#): > > The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States The President is the CiC, NOT the Congress. The Congress attempted to usurp the authority of the President in that bill. Had they managed to override the veto, I would imagine that a lawsuit would immediately have been filed and the bill found to be unconstitutional for that reason. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/11 "2007-05-02T22:26:25Z")
[QUOTE=dgrdfd] Please don’t breed. [/QUOTE] That needed to be said and enforced at least two generations ago. Amazing, a post so lacking any intelligence that I’m sticking up for the U.S. Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/12 "2007-05-02T22:28:58Z")
[QUOTE=glee] You (stupid poster) had no business starting this thread in the first place. All you accomplished by doing so was: 1. A public demonstration of your ignorance of the Constitution of the United States. 2. A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harm’s way, and are willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look good. [/QUOTE] Oh, fuck you, **glee**. I obviously know more about the Constitution than you do - see my response to **Renob**. And where did I try to make George Bush look good? Oh, sorry, that’s only in your sweaty little mind. My argument was solely on the constitutional issue and the fact that the Congress is so blindly anti-GWB that they are willing to ignore the law. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/13 "2007-05-02T22:29:20Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] The President is the CiC, NOT the Congress. The Congress attempted to usurp the authority of the President in that bill. Had they managed to override the veto, I would imagine that a lawsuit would immediately have been filed and the bill found to be unconstitutional for that reason. [/QUOTE] And then the Judiciary would have been involved, and the whole _checks and balances_ part of the Constitution would have come into play, just as it should. As I’m not a lawyer, and I have better things to do rather than dive into a bill’s verbiage to determine which portion exactly usurps the President’s role as commander-in-chief, who don’t you post those excerpts. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/14 "2007-05-02T22:29:35Z")
[QUOTE=glee] willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look good. [/QUOTE] How can **W** _not_ look good? [He’s the Commander Guy!](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070502-2.html) > [@](#): > > The question is, who ought to make that decision? The Congress or the commanders? And as you know, my position is clear – I’m the commander guy. You may not be aware of this, but ‘Commander Guy’ is several steps up from ‘Cable Guy’. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/15 "2007-05-02T22:30:21Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] 2. A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harm’s way, and are willing to get them killed just so you can try to make George Bush look bad. [/QUOTE] How is that bill going to get anyone killed? Do you honestly think funding for the war will be even slightly disrupted? (The obvious follow-up question is of course why it’s OK for the President to veto a bill that is so imperative to the troops’ safety, but since it’s **Clothahump** I know that’s a pointless question.) ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/16 "2007-05-02T22:39:55Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] The President is the CiC, NOT the Congress. The Congress attempted to usurp the authority of the President in that bill. Had they managed to override the veto, I would imagine that a lawsuit would immediately have been filed and the bill found to be unconstitutional for that reason. [/QUOTE] Can you please demonstrate how withholding funding for the military based on just about anything represents usurping the authority of the President as CinC? ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/17 "2007-05-02T22:44:53Z")
In my little fantasy world, the dumb fucks in Congress would react to the veto by saying “Well darn, we tried - Guess he didn’t want the money after all. Moving right along…” ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/18 "2007-05-02T22:47:09Z")
Sometimes I wonder if \*\*Clothahump \*\*is just a long-running and extremely sophisticated kaufmanesque flame persona. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/19 "2007-05-02T22:48:11Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] The President is the CiC, NOT the Congress. [/QUOTE] That does **not** mean he gets to decide when to begin or end a war. That is Congress’ call. Under the Constitution. Congress also gets to control the money. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/20 "2007-05-02T22:49:59Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] How is that bill going to get anyone killed? Do you honestly think funding for the war will be even slightly disrupted? [/QUOTE] No cite, but I recall reading the funding won’t actually run out until late this summer. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531.md?page=2)