# I pit the dumb fucks in Congress **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531 "2007-05-02T21:20:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/121 "2007-05-08T21:50:22Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] You can’t spend six years wiping your butt with the Constitution and then hide behind it when you think it serves your purpose . . . [/QUOTE] Of course you can, **Bob.** There is no lack of precedent. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/122 "2007-05-08T22:07:11Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] What I’ve been wondering lately is, how would such a disagreement between the two branches work out in practice, short of impeachment? [/QUOTE] It’s \*supposed \* to be worked out among adults with senses of responsibility to the nation, who recognize that sense in each other regardless of different views about how to carry it out, all in the spirit of willing compromise. > [@](#): > > What, if anything short of impeachment, is to prevent a President from spending money whether or not it’s been appropriated? The departments’ inability to disburse funds they don’t have, for which institutional systems are in place. There’s also the myriad suppliers’ refusal to ship product for which they know the checks are going to bounce. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/123 "2007-05-08T22:54:44Z")
So is **Humpy** ever gonna come back and face the music? I have to say, I love these threads he starts, but the ending is always a bit of a repeat-and-fade letdown. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/124 "2007-05-08T22:57:25Z")
Someone needs to keep track of how many Clothahump’s attempted pittings have gone down in flames and chuckles. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/125 "2007-05-08T23:03:27Z")
[QUOTE=Apos] Someone needs to keep track of how many Clothahump’s attempted pittings have gone down in flames and chuckles. [/QUOTE] I just did a search for all the Pit threads started by **Clothahump** , and got thirty results. So I’m going to guess the answer to your question is, “Thirty.” ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/126 "2007-05-08T23:18:01Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] So is **Humpy** ever gonna come back and face the music? I have to say, I love these threads he starts, but the ending is always a bit of a repeat-and-fade letdown. [/QUOTE] He did – he came back and repeated the assertions in his OP. What more do you want? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/127 "2007-05-08T23:59:48Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] He did – he came back and repeated the assertions in his OP. What more do you want? [/QUOTE] Besides a pony? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/128 "2007-05-09T00:07:47Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Besides a pony? [/QUOTE] You’re gonna have to hold off on that. **Clothahump** ’s still working on the pile… ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/129 "2007-05-09T00:09:56Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] In the kingdom of the microcephalic, the lobotomized man is king. Hence, **clothahump** ’s rabid partisanship of George W. [/QUOTE] Ya know, this gets old. I have stated before that GWB is on my shit list, but nobody seems to care as long as they get to run their mouth - incorrectly - about how much I love him and all that. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/130 "2007-05-09T00:12:25Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Ya know, this gets old. I have stated before that GWB is on my shit list, but nobody seems to care as long as they get to run their mouth - incorrectly - about how much I love him and all that. [/QUOTE] Okay. I will retract the last part of that when you explain, with the additional insight that 3 (4?) pages of thread with posts from actual lawyers who know the law and Constitution a thousand times better than you do gives, why what Congress did was so wrong? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/131 "2007-05-09T00:12:08Z")
I cannot operate a message board and need my posting license revoked… ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/132 "2007-05-09T00:27:07Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot] . . . As has been mentioned before in this thread, Bush’s power as Commander-in-Chief doesn’t entitle him to control absolutely everything about the military, with Congress’ only role to provide him with exactly the money he demands with no strings attached in any way. Congress is an equal branch of government, not the executive’s lapdog. [/QUOTE] Never said they were. What I did say, for the comprehension-challenged among us (which seems to be damn near everybody on this board), was that Congress attempted to usurp part of the President’s half of the pie. Professor Gerald Treece of the South Texas College of Law in Houston had made this point repeatedly. Professor Treece is a well-recognized constitutional law scholar. His comment on the radio a couple of days ago was to the effect that even a C- law student would recognize the bill as unconstitutional, it was that blatant. And I gotta wonder, folks. I’m not a law student, and I recognized the bill as unconstitutional and why it was unconstitutional. Why didn’t you? Why weren’t you complaining about the actions of Congress in passing that bill? Hmmm? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/133 "2007-05-09T00:29:35Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] At least he returned (however briefly) to this one to try to defend his view. He usually rushes right off to re-wrap his lips around GWB’s cock and never makes it back to the thread. [/QUOTE] Thank you for posting this message in support of my stance. Maybe one of these days, you (and everyone else) might learn that resorting to ad hominem attacks is an open declaration that you cannot refute what was said, so you resort to attacking the person who said it. But I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/134 "2007-05-09T01:01:26Z")
Ladies and gentlemen, that is some industrial grade stupid. We’re gonna need the brush with the wire bristles for this one. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/135 "2007-05-09T01:04:42Z")
I don’t think it’s that Clothahump likes Bush so much. It’s that a liberal must have shot his dog at some point, because he hates them with a passion unblemished by reason. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/136 "2007-05-09T01:11:32Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Never said they were. What I did say, for the comprehension-challenged among us (which seems to be damn near everybody on this board), was that Congress attempted to usurp part of the President’s half of the pie. Professor Gerald Treece of the South Texas College of Law in Houston had made this point repeatedly. Professor Treece is a well-recognized constitutional law scholar. His comment on the radio a couple of days ago was to the effect that even a C- law student would recognize the bill as unconstitutional, it was that blatant. And I gotta wonder, folks. I’m not a law student, and I recognized the bill as unconstitutional and why it was unconstitutional. Why didn’t you? Why weren’t you complaining about the actions of Congress in passing that bill? Hmmm? [/QUOTE] Yeah, **Bricker** , what is your excuse, anyway? Just another of your liberal kneejerks, I suspect. Fuckin’ pinko. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/137 "2007-05-09T01:20:46Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Professor Gerald Treece of the South Texas College of Law in Houston had made this point repeatedly. Professor Treece is a well-recognized constitutional law scholar. His comment on the radio a couple of days ago was to the effect that even a C- law student would recognize the bill as unconstitutional, it was that blatant. [/QUOTE] 1. Let’s see a cite/link for that. 2. [John Yoo,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo) author of the “unitary executive” theory, is also a law-school prof. That doesn’t mean the theory isn’t pernicious bullshit; it is. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/138 "2007-05-09T01:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Professor Gerald Treece of the South Texas College of Law in Houston had made this point repeatedly. [/QUOTE] I think I saw an ad for this “college” on the back of a matchbook cover. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/139 "2007-05-09T01:23:41Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] And I gotta wonder, folks. I’m not a law student, and I recognized the bill as unconstitutional and why it was unconstitutional. Why didn’t you? Why weren’t you complaining about the actions of Congress in passing that bill? Hmmm? [/QUOTE] I gotta go back to this. You’re not a law student, but you could tell that the law was clearly unconstitutional. _Actual lawyers_ have said that it isn’t. And we’re supposed to listen to you instead of them because…? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531/140 "2007-05-09T01:27:15Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] I think I saw an ad for this “college” on the back of a matchbook cover. [/QUOTE] Well, it is on the [list of law schools approved by the American Bar Association,](http://www.abanet.org/legaled/approvedlawschools/alpha.html) FWIW. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-dumb-fucks-in-congress/402531.md?page=8)