# I Pit the Entire BBQ Pit Community **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161 "2010-08-31T17:33:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/21 "2010-08-31T20:24:40Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > > Pfsh. You and your facts. > > > > Whatever. I still like the guy. > > Me too. I don’t get the rage; he’s not the only person who’s wrong on the internet out here. He’s deliberately, obtusely wrong, misinterprets facts, ignores others, and then gloats about how he “schooled you”. He has an attitude that because he pays more to polish his hubcaps than you make in a year, then his opinions are better than yours. He has an immature libertarian streak that is not backed up with any logical consistency. He’s a braggart and an attention whore. Other than that, ya, he’s a great guy, salt of the earth. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/22 "2010-08-31T20:32:56Z")
Dickosaurus Rex. The endangered feces that Emily Littella tried to warn us about. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/23 "2010-08-31T20:42:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Maeglin](#): > > > > Me too. I don’t get the rage; he’s not the only person who’s wrong on the internet out here. > > He’s deliberately, obtusely wrong, misinterprets facts, ignores others, and then gloats about how he “schooled you”. > > He has an attitude that because he pays more to polish his hubcaps than you make in a year, then his opinions are better than yours. > > He has an immature libertarian streak that is not backed up with any logical consistency. > > He’s a braggart and an attention whore. > > Other than that, ya, he’s a great guy, salt of the earth. Well yeah, but people get angry because of his illogical libertarian streak? Good grief. I’m going to be teaching overprivileged undergraduates soon enough, so I really hope that immature political beliefs won’t piss me off. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/24 "2010-08-31T21:21:53Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > Well yeah, but people get angry because of his illogical libertarian streak? Good grief. I’m going to be teaching overprivileged undergraduates soon enough, so I really hope that immature political beliefs won’t piss me off. Ah, this explains your patience. If they’re undergraduates though, you can live in hope that some of them might listen and understand, and you will be able to make them think outside of their tiny world of privilege. Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/25 "2010-08-31T21:23:26Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Meh. I consider him much like I consider **Shodan** and **Starving Artist**. Pretty fun to post with as long as the topic is not politics. I apparently missed all of those posts. I’m more bemused by **Rand Rover** than anything else. It’s rare to see such a stark contrast between someone’s bloated self-estimation and the sad, pathetic reality. It’s cute to watch a little kid imagining himself a superhero. When it’s a grown man in an adult diaper who’s painted a backwards “S” on his chest using his own feces and is trying desperately to pound ABC blocks into round peg-holes with the wrong end of a hammer… not so cute. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/26 "2010-08-31T21:27:11Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > > But…but…but… > > > > I LOVE watching you all flail about, trying to refute his arguments. It’s fantasticly amusing because you fail every time. > > Ya, I love how he “proved” that UHC in Canada would eventually destroy the Canadian economy, based on the fact that unemployment rates used to be high in the past. He didn’t want to acknowledge the current positive economic performance in UHC-burdened Canada, because that did not agree with his premise. > > He’s either stupid as a box of rocks, or deliberately obtuse and antagonistic. > > **Gangster Octopus’** reasonable assertion is that he is the latter, and we should stop engaging it. I admit to being guilty as charged. And this is a perfect example of why I try to not actually get into the substance of issues with you idiots anymore. I never even asserted that UHC in Canada would eventually destroy the Canadian economy, much less try to prove it. I did make an argument about the relative PERMANENT unemployment rate between the US and Canada, which can only be shown by looking at HISTORICAL numbers. You then dismissed my point because I was, like, looking at the past, man. So, I’ll just point and laugh at your idiocy and imperviousness to facts and reason and not waste my time actually trying to educate you. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/27 "2010-08-31T21:29:51Z")
Delusional people are so entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/28 "2010-08-31T21:33:39Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Bah. This OP is another variant on DNFTT, except the troll in this case is simply someone who holds exasperating views. DNFTT doesn’t work, has never worked, and will never work on a message board. 'DNFTT" is a big, crunchy, delicious Troll Snack™. And an entire thread devoted to ‘DNFTT’ is a gourmet meal. As for Rand Rover; always liked him. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/29 "2010-08-31T21:36:08Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Bah. This OP is another variant on DNFTT, except the troll in this case is simply someone who holds exasperating views. DNFTT doesn’t work, has never worked, and will never work on a message board. Survival show narrator voice: The average message board troll can go without food for over two years. On the other hand the average message board poster can remain patient for just under six minutes. . . . ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/30 "2010-08-31T21:45:58Z")
/Jacques Cousteau Voice The Straight Dope Message Board Troll(AAR) is a slow, lumbering and dossier yet strangely gentile creature (no bar mitzvah for dem), who… /end Jacques Cousteau Voice -XT ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/31 "2010-08-31T21:48:57Z")
Also, I’m somewhat disappointed that I haven’t said anything particularly pit-worthy lately (at least AFAIK). I don’t feel like I’ve really deserved this pitting. I apologize, and will try to do better. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/32 "2010-08-31T21:59:02Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > /Jacques Cousteau Voice > The Straight Dope Message Board Troll(AAR) is a slow, lumbering and \*\*dossier \*\*yet strangely gentile creature (no bar mitzvah for dem), who… > > /end Jacques Cousteau Voice > > -XT He’s a file on a person? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/33 "2010-08-31T22:00:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Maeglin](#): > > > > Me too. I don’t get the rage; he’s not the only person who’s wrong on the internet out here. > > He’s deliberately, obtusely wrong, misinterprets facts, ignores others, and then gloats about how he “schooled you”. > > He has an attitude that because he pays more to polish his hubcaps than you make in a year, then his opinions are better than yours. > > He has an immature libertarian streak that is not backed up with any logical consistency. > > He’s a braggart and an attention whore. > > Other than that, ya, he’s a great guy, salt of the earth. Accepting all that, he simply isnt any different than quite a few posters on this message board. Face it, there are a lot of assholes on this board, he is just one of them. I quite like his presence here, it amuses me to see so many people flailing about getting worked up over what he says. Anyway, to the OP, why is the Pit community getting pitted for engaging and debating Rand Rover? Why arent you pitting Great Debates you cretin? You suggest we ignore what Rand Rover posts? Why? Because he chaffs your panties and you would like the bad poster to slink away quietly, but you dont have the ability to converse with him. So you get all impotent with internet rage, and express your wish that everybody else agree with you and shun the pariah? Fucking Octopi.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/34 "2010-08-31T22:11:02Z")
[QUOTE=Face Intentionally Left Blank] He’s a file on a person? [/QUOTE] And a non-Jew as well… -XT ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/35 "2010-08-31T22:20:49Z")
Am I the only one who thought this was going to be some kind of vegan rant? I find it amusing watching him get the crap kicked out of him over and over and over…yet still coming back for more. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/36 "2010-08-31T22:21:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And this is a perfect example of why I try to not actually get into the substance of issues with you idiots anymore. I never even asserted that UHC in Canada would eventually destroy the Canadian economy, much less try to prove it. I did make an argument about the relative PERMANENT unemployment rate between the US and Canada, which can only be shown by looking at HISTORICAL numbers. You then dismissed my point because I was, like, looking at the past, man. > > So, I’ll just point and laugh at your idiocy and imperviousness to facts and reason and not waste my time actually trying to educate you. And this sums it up. The HISTORICAL unemployment gap between the two countries is not necessarily PERMANENT, particularly when the CURRENT gap is in favour of Canada, and shows no signs of moving back to the way it was anytime soon. Thanks for the dose of arrogance though. Nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/37 "2010-08-31T22:30:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I never even asserted that UHC in Canada would eventually destroy the Canadian economy, much less try to prove it. > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Rand Rover > You are simply mistaken about the facts. Many countries with UHC and other large government programs are right this very minute experiencing many of the long-term difficulties that are the results of big government. They have high tax rates, which reduces innovation and causes mobile productive people to leave. They have high permanent unemployment. Their economy is weaker and less robust because it is saddled with long-term liabilities to fund entitlement programs. Their people are so dependent on government programs that they strike and complain about any movement toward less government influence on the market and come to expect the government to take care of every aspect of their lives, which further aggravates these problems. People with government influence are able to obtain better health care and lower taxes and more stuff from the government in general. They have cultural issues caused by increased immigration by people looking for free health care. The list goes on and on. You realize that the words that you type here don’t go away, right? This whole line of argument of yours was simply a steaming pile. It was most amusing when you tried to redefine “PERMENANT” unemployment as “HISTORICAL” unemployment and just ignored what is actually happening now. You tried to wave away Canada’s current STRONGER economy as just an aberration. You were wrong in every aspect of what you typed, so you simply ran away and declared victory. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/38 "2010-08-31T23:11:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Ah, this explains your patience. > > If they’re undergraduates though, you can live in hope that some of them might listen and understand, and you will be able to make them think outside of their tiny world of privilege. Good Luck! I was an overprivileged undergrad once upon a time, and a bit of a Randroid to boot. Fortunately my objectivist inclinations didn’t survive a collision with good ideas I learned about in college and copious amounts of sex. It only took a few weeks. There’s hope for everyone out there. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/39 "2010-08-31T23:57:51Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > [QUOTE=Face Intentionally Left Blank] > He’s a file on a person? And a non-Jew as well… -XT [/QUOTE] Oh, his thick accent! :smack: Jeez, I had to work to get that! I can’t brain today. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-entire-bbq-pit-community/552161/40 "2010-09-01T00:37:31Z")
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