# I pit the goat felching douchenozzle(s) who blew up the Boston Marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788 "2013-04-15T20:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/181 "2013-04-16T20:12:53Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > And if its anti-government of the occupy type? WTF? They want government to work _better_. That’s pro, not anti. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/182 "2013-04-16T20:15:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Latest chyron says explosives packed in a pressure cooker. So, morons. Or just broke-ass. Whole lotta that goin’ on. ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/183 "2013-04-16T20:19:59Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > My wild ass guess would be the odds of it being a Tea Party OK city type at less than 50% How much lower than 50% are you willing to go? 10%? 1%? 0.01%? Willing to give odds? Your experiences might be different, but if I know something has a 25% chance of happening, I would not be surprised if it does happen. If it is less than 10%, then yeah, I might be surprised (in the context of this discussion). So unless you think the odds are less than 25%, then you are admitting you wouldn’t be surprised if a Tea Party OK city type were behind this. It isn’t like you and Snowboarder Bo are completely opposite. Just different degrees. If you are saying less than 25%, are you willing to give 4:1 odds? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/184 "2013-04-16T20:21:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Latest chyron says explosives packed in a pressure cooker. So, morons. Yes, they’re dangerous but tend to be a moron trademark. I’m leaning more toward seeing them arrest a nutcase saying, “Had to do it 'fore president Osama sells us all to the Chinamen!” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/185 "2013-04-16T20:30:18Z")
That’s not a nutcase, that’s a patriot. A nutcase would say that his invisible friend told him to. Unless the invisible friend is God. Oh, fuck it, all are mad but thee and me, and thou, I’m not so sure about… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/186 "2013-04-16T20:33:58Z")
This just in…gunpowder. _Gunpowder_? What the fuck kind of dipshit terrorist uses gunpowder? Its the Moron International Liberation Front (MILF), which is going to cause Google some problems… ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/187 "2013-04-16T20:50:41Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Just which words in his statement indicate eagerness? Seems you still like to attribute motives where none exist. Well he went and started a thread on the topic. Read the OP. I’d certainly say “eagerness” is an applicable description. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/188 "2013-04-16T20:58:00Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > If this turns out to be the act of a random nut job with no specific political affiliation but a psychosis driven hatred for the government some of you will be falling all over yourself saying “See Teaparty!” So? That’s what we’ll hear about the terrorist(s) even if they are officially a member of the Tea Party. Atrocities committed by the Right in this country are always just “random nut jobs” and “lone wolves” who “have no affiliation” with any official right wing group or leader. Funny how that works. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/189 "2013-04-16T20:58:20Z")
> [@cmosdes](#): > > How much lower than 50% are you willing to go? 10%? 1%? 0.01%? Willing to give odds? Let’s first see what all these people will give me for odds that seem so confident they know who is responsible. > [@](#): > > Your experiences might be different, but if I know something has a 25% chance of happening, I would not be surprised if it does happen. If it is less than 10%, then yeah, I might be surprised (in the context of this discussion). > > So unless you think the odds are less than 25%, then you are admitting you wouldn’t be surprised if a Tea Party OK city type were behind this. It isn’t like you and Snowboarder Bo are completely opposite. Just different degrees. Your missing a key difference here: It’s a very different thing to say you wouldn’t be surprised something happened and saying you’d be surprised if anything other than that thing happened. Would I be “surprised” if it were a home grown, conservative terrorist? Probably not. There’s a chance that is the case. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if it were Al Qaeda or some unaffiliated nut. Saying you’d be surprised if it were anything other than your forgone conclusion would indicate to me that the percentage change of happening is a hell of a lot higher than 25%. I’d say more like 90%. But I’ll let **Snowboarder Bo** speak to that if he wants to give a percentage. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/190 "2013-04-16T21:04:38Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > So? That’s what we’ll hear about the terrorist(s) even if they are officially a member of the Tea Party. Atrocities committed by the Right in this country are always just “random nut jobs” and “lone wolves” who “have no affiliation” with any official right wing group or leader. Funny how that works. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/191 "2013-04-16T21:14:01Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Wait, What?! Occupy was anti-government? I thought they were anti-bank and anti-Wall Street? The banks and Wall Street run the government of course. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > WTF? They want government to work _better_. That’s pro, not anti. Who’s they? It was a very splintered group. It included everything from suburban school teachers to hardcore anti-government anarchists. Whoever was behind this will turn out to be on the fringe of whatever ideology they identify with. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > So? That’s what we’ll hear about the terrorist(s) even if they are officially a member of the Tea Party. Atrocities committed by the Right in this country are always just “random nut jobs” and “lone wolves” who “have no affiliation” with any official right wing group or leader. Funny how that works. I thought you were the coward who didn’t do the Pit? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/192 "2013-04-16T21:17:52Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > If you don’t want me to read your plain words and react to them then don’t post them. > > You said you’d be surprised if it’s not a tax day protest. You haven’t retracted that, which is fine. So I’m “taking your remark” in exactly the right way: You are eager to blame right wingers for this attack despite there being no evidence at all that’s who’s to blame. > > To you, and others who are so quick to blame the Tea Party: Do you want to put any money on it? > > My wild ass guess would be the odds of it being a Tea Party OK city type at less than 50%, so betting against it is not certain but it has an expected rate of return of \>1. > > How certain are you that it was a right wing, home grown terrorist? You willing to give me odds? You’re an idiot. Clearly your name has an “r” where there should be a “d”. By giving odds, you’ve done exactly the same thing I did, yet you try and make me out to have done something else, and try and excoriate me for it. And then you still try and claim that I said something that I never said. You’re an idiot, a liar and an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/193 "2013-04-16T21:18:55Z")
**Der** , the Tea Party as a discrete entity doesn’t really exist. Google “tea party rally”, for instance, and you get directed to the Tea Party Express (Dick Armey’s outfit) and their agenda for the 2012 election. Tax Day rallies that spattered on the sidewalk like pigeon poop. Dey delisted, devoid and defunked. An ex-parrot. The Weathermen are a more likely suspect. Followed by a radical militant splinter group of the Unitarian Church. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/194 "2013-04-16T21:23:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Followed by a radical militant splinter group of the Unitarian Church. [Unitarian Jihad](http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/carroll/article/JON-CARROLL-3324002.php) has been around awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/195 "2013-04-16T21:27:33Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I thought you were the coward who didn’t do the Pit? :rolleyes: I don’t post in threads Pitting me, and therefore as a matter of courtesy usually avoid threads where other people are being Pitted. Unless you are trying to claim that an SDMB member was behind this attack, neither condition applies. ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/196 "2013-04-16T21:30:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Wait, What?! Occupy was anti-government? I thought they were anti-bank and anti-Wall Street? I remember something about a group of Occupy Cleveland who wanted to blow up some shit. To lazy to see what happened or something but the movement was far from 100% peace, love, and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/197 "2013-04-16T21:32:58Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Let’s first see what all these people will give me for odds that seem so confident they know who is responsible. As far as I’ve seen you are the only one to put up the suggestion of a bet with odds. I’m just trying to gauge how strong your own convictions are using your methodology for measuring it. As it turns out, you are as unwilling to make any bets as those you accused. > [@Debaser](#): > > Your missing a key difference here: It’s a very different thing to say you wouldn’t be surprised something happened and saying you’d be surprised if anything other than that thing happened. > > Would I be “surprised” if it were a home grown, conservative terrorist? Probably not. There’s a chance that is the case. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if it were Al Qaeda or some unaffiliated nut. > > Saying you’d be surprised if it were anything other than your forgone conclusion would indicate to me that the percentage change of happening is a hell of a lot higher than 25%. I’d say more like 90%. But I’ll let **Snowboarder Bo** speak to that if he wants to give a percentage. I get the difference which is why I worded things the way I did. As I said, you two are different in degrees only. He isn’t certain it is a Tea Partier and you aren’t certain it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/198 "2013-04-16T21:37:48Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > :rolleyes: I don’t post in threads Pitting me, and therefore as a matter of courtesy usually avoid threads where other people are being Pitted. Unless you are trying to claim that an SDMB member was behind this attack, neither condition applies. I can attest to that. **Der** is widely known hereabouts for his delicate sensibility and tactful demeanor. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/199 "2013-04-16T21:55:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Grim bit of humor. News report I was reading felt it needful to explain what a “pressure cooker” was, for people who have never put up a batch of preserves. Fair concern – how many have, these days? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/200 "2013-04-16T21:57:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I can attest to that. **Der** is widely known hereabouts for his delicate sensibility and tactful demeanor. Thank you for bringing a chuckle to a depressing subject. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788.md?page=11)