# I pit the goat felching douchenozzle(s) who blew up the Boston Marathon

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**Created:** [April 15, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788 "2013-04-15T20:38:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/201 "2013-04-16T22:38:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Wait, What?! Occupy was anti-government? I thought they were anti-bank and anti-Wall Street?

Yeah, but then you can’t ignore, y’know, the salaried managers of the ruling class.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/202 "2013-04-16T22:39:14Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Or sovereign citizen? Just as likely. The Tea Party is in no way possible a terrorist organization.

Actually, I would expect to find some considerable overlap between the TP and the SC.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/203 "2013-04-16T22:41:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> This just in…gunpowder. _Gunpowder_? What the fuck kind of dipshit terrorist uses gunpowder?

The kind who has no access to military-grade explosives, but easy access to the same chemicals you can find in any high-school lab – or, simply, to gunpowder? (I’ve heard you can find it in some gun stores; black-powder shooting is a specialized hobby for primitivists, like bow-hunting.)

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/204 "2013-04-16T22:47:58Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The kind who has no access to military-grade explosives, but easy access to the same chemicals you can find in any high-school lab – or, simply, to gunpowder? (I’ve heard you can find it in some gun stores; black-powder shooting is a specialized hobby, like bow-hunting.)

You can buy ordinary gunpowder in most gun stores as well, not just black powder.

Many target shooters load their own ammunition in order to precisely control the amount of powder and achieve repeatable, consistent results in competition (commercial ammunition with the desirable level of precision is very expensive, if available at all). Additionally, many recreational shooters re-load their own spent casings to save money.

Interestingly, gunpowder is almost impossible to buy nowadays because of the ongoing gun control hysteria - all stores in my area are constantly sold out. Not sure about black powder, though.

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/205 "2013-04-16T22:49:42Z")

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> [@WSJ](#):
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> Senate Majority Leader Reid says letter with ricin or another poison sent to Sen. Roger Wicker.

This just appeared on the WSJ website.

Man, I hope it’s the same wackjob, this will undoubtedly help catch the bastard.

Who the fuck is Roger Wicker? R-Mississippi, apparently, but I’ve never heard of him.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/206 "2013-04-16T23:11:41Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Washington Post  
> > Few Americans are likely to be familiar with pressure cooker bombs, the explosives reportedly used in Monday’s Boston Marathon attacks – but the Department of Homeland Security has been on alert for the devices since at least 2004, according to an internal memo from that year.
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> > The almost decade-old memo described pressure cooker bombs as “a technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps.”
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> > …
> > 
> > The 2004 memo mentions foiled plots in France, Nepal and Jammu, India. A series of seven pressure cooker bombs killed more than 200 people in India in 2006, during the Mumbai train attacks.

It was pointed out on the radio this afternoon (I was listening to NPR, so whatever show they’re airing at 5 pm), that although this type of bomb has been used by Al Qaeda, instructions to make them are readily available on the internet and rightwing groups in the U.S. have been known to distribute those instructions to their members. So, still not a direct pointer to any particular group.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/207 "2013-04-16T23:34:53Z")

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[Comedian Patton Oswalt writes:](http://www.facebook.com/pattonoswalt/posts/10151440800582655)

> [@](#):
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> Boston. Fucking horrible.
> 
> I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, “Well, I’ve had it with humanity.”
> 
> But I was wrong. I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.
> 
> But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we’re lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they’re pointed towards darkness.
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> But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago.
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> So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, “The good outnumber you, and we always will.”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/208 "2013-04-16T23:36:27Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> This just appeared on the WSJ website.
> 
> Man, I hope it’s the same wackjob, this will undoubtedly help catch the bastard.
> 
> Who the fuck is Roger Wicker?

It’s definitely a teabagger, then. They’re systematically going after politicians such as Roger Wicker - (D - Mississippi). If they had been targetting Republicans then it may have been questionable.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/209 "2013-04-16T23:43:33Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> You can buy ordinary gunpowder in most gun stores as well, not just black powder.

The difference being?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/210 "2013-04-16T23:52:50Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Washington Post  
> > Few Americans are likely to be familiar with pressure cooker bombs, the explosives reportedly used in Monday’s Boston Marathon attacks – but the Department of Homeland Security has been on alert for the devices since at least 2004, according to an internal memo from that year.
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> > The almost decade-old memo described pressure cooker bombs as “a technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps.”
> > 
> > …
> > 
> > The 2004 memo mentions foiled plots in France, Nepal and Jammu, India. A series of seven pressure cooker bombs killed more than 200 people in India in 2006, during the Mumbai train attacks.

> [@C3](#):
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> It was pointed out on the radio this afternoon (I was listening to NPR, so whatever show they’re airing at 5 pm), that although this type of bomb has been used by Al Qaeda, instructions to make them are readily available on the internet and rightwing groups in the U.S. have been known to distribute those instructions to their members. So, still not a direct pointer to any particular group.

Especially since the pressure cooker bomb has been around far longer than the recent unpleasantness in Afghanistan. A bomb squad officer in New York was killed trying to disarm a [pressure cooker bomb in 1976](http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=110&dat=19760911&id=0pJaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=S0oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3670,5485482), attributed to a Croatian freedom group.

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/211 "2013-04-17T00:03:56Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> It’s definitely a teabagger, then. They’re systematically going after politicians such as Roger Wicker - (D - Mississippi). If they had been targetting Republicans then it may have been questionable.

I can’t tell if this is a joke.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/212 "2013-04-17T00:04:43Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The difference being?

Modern smokeless powder is different from old-fashioned cap-and-ball black powder. Burns a lot faster, as well as producing less smoke (and flame.)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/213 "2013-04-17T00:08:50Z")

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> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> I can’t tell if this is a joke.

I can’t, either. I just love needling Fox about their penchant for misidentifying party membership. I’ll probably be in my 80s and still making jokes about in on the Hypermindweb.

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/214 "2013-04-17T00:10:22Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The difference being?

Black powder has a lower energy density (a factor of almost 3 IIRC) and produces a whole bunch of solid residues (soot). Modern (“smokeless”) powder does not. They are chemically different.

It is rather confusing, because technically “gunpowder” refers to black powder, and “smokeless powder” or “cordite” refers to the modern stuff, but since almost no new firearm design since about 1875 has actually used black powder, most people just call smokeless powder “gunpowder”. Smokeless powder was invented/discovered around 1850 IIRC, whereas black powder was discovered back in the 8th century or something.

So, when the WSJ reports the bombs used black powder, and the NYT reports gunpowder, it is still totally unclear what was actually used.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/215 "2013-04-17T00:13:38Z")

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Also, smokeless powder is almost useless as an explosive while black powder blows up real good.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/216 "2013-04-17T00:23:39Z")

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[quote=“ElvisL1ves, post:7, topic:655788”]

Nobody else is reporting that. Maybe Murdoch’s people are trying to, um, “shape public opinion” in their usual way?[/QUOTE

Mike Royko, who won a Pulitzer Prize, and for some years wrote commentary for the Chicago Sun Time. Murdoch bought the paper and Royko jumped ship to the rival Chicago Tribune, saying _“No self-respecting fish would want to be wrapped in a Murdoch paper”_

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/217 "2013-04-17T00:28:53Z")

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Who will pit “Family Guy” for predicting Boston marathon bombing?

> **[Boston Marathon Bombing: Seth MacFarlane Calls ‘Family Guy’ Hoax ‘Abhorrent’](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/boston-bombing-seth-macfarlane-calls-440456/)**
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> UPDATED: Fox has removed the episode in question from Fox.com and Hulu.com.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/218 "2013-04-17T00:43:18Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> Who the fuck is Roger Wicker? R-Mississippi, apparently, but I’ve never heard of him.

[Hmmm…](http://www.examiner.com/article/no-filibuster-16-republicans-vote-to-let-gun-control-bill-proceed-senate)

> [@](#):
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> On Thursday, the Senate voted to end the filibuster on a major gun control proposal being brought for consideration. Sixteen Republicans joined 50 Democrats and one Independent in a lopsided 68-31 vote that brought the threatened filibuster to an end, The Blaze reported.
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> According to USA Today, the 16 Republicans were Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Richard Burr of North Carolina, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Susan Collins of Maine, Bob Corker of Tennessee, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Dean Heller of Nevada, John Hoeven of North Dakota, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, Mark Kirk of Illinois, John McCain of Arizona, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and **Roger Wicker of Mississippi**.

I can’t find anything else in his record that would make him a target, unless he has a particularly lackadaisical record taking care of constituent complaints about late Social Security checks or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/219 "2013-04-17T00:48:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Latest chyron says explosives packed in a pressure cooker. So, morons.

Explosives? I guess the instructions for brewing up [dioxygen difluoride](http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/) were just too difficult.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/220 "2013-04-17T01:58:57Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Explosives? I guess the instructions for brewing up [dioxygen difluoride](http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/) were just too difficult.

Pure oxygen, gaseous fluorine, a stove that can heat to 700 Celsius – who doesn’t have all **that** in their kitchen, for pity’s sake?! It’s not rocket science. (Well, not unless the pressure-cooker springs a leak . . .)

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