# I pit the goat felching douchenozzle(s) who blew up the Boston Marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788 "2013-04-15T20:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/161 "2013-04-16T16:28:06Z")
Perhaps it’s time to pause and reassess your life and your most fondly held beliefs, knowhamean? Might do you some good. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/162 "2013-04-16T16:48:19Z")
Reports surfacing indicate an “improvised device”, which is usually code for clumsy crude and amateurish. Which leans against such groups as AlQ or the IRA or any of dozens of vicious assholes who know what they are about when it comes to mayhem. What puzzles me most is the lack of any claim for responsibility. If this is some group of AlQ wannabes, how come Al-Jazz doesn’t know anything more than we do? Tea Party? Which one, there’s about fifty, squabbling over whether Obama is a Muslim socialist or an atheist Communist. All we know is evil, stupid, violent and inept. Which only lets out the Amish. Got this much of a wild assed guess: its somebody we never heard of before. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/163 "2013-04-16T16:53:21Z")
Latest chyron says explosives packed in a pressure cooker. So, morons. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/164 "2013-04-16T16:55:40Z")
No claim for responsibility lends itself quite nicely to the lone nut theory – of which fucked up stripe remains to be seen. I saw someone on the TeeVee this morning making the point that lone (almost lone, I suppose) nut Timothy McVeigh didn’t wave his hands and jump up and down shouting, “I did it! It was me!.” He was caught while trying to get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/165 "2013-04-16T17:04:40Z")
Grim bit of humor. News report I was reading felt it needful to explain what a “pressure cooker” was, for people who have never put up a batch of preserves. And “low grade explosives”. Again, points to unsophisticated and unconnected. Don’t know where to get the real stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/166 "2013-04-16T17:11:37Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > A proper investigation includes both gathering forensic evidence and questioning the circumstances of the event. In this case, one of those circumstances is that it happened on Tax Day. Another circumstance is that it happened in Boston, a city historically associated with tax revolts. > > It may turn out that those circumstances are coincidental - but we won’t know unless someone investigates. It would be irresponsible of the investigators to ignore those circumstances because some people don’t like the implications. That particular form of irresponsibility has been [accepted as official government policy](http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2011/summer/inside-the-dhs-former-top-analyst-says-agency-bowed). > [@](#): > > While at DHS, Johnson and his team wrote the April 7, 2009 report, “Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” The report, which was intended for law enforcement only, was quickly leaked and caused a firestorm among some on the political right who accused DHS of painting all kinds of conservatives as potential Timothy McVeighs. In fact, it had merely pointed out that some domestic extremists focused on single issues like immigration and abortion and also noted that extremists were interested in recruiting military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Its analysis of the causes of the surge of right-wing radicalism — the election of the nation’s first black president and the economy, among other things — still seems completely accurate and is in line with similar findings by the Southern Poverty Law Center. > > But DHS ultimately reacted to criticism from conservative columnists and groups like the American Legion by withdrawing the report. (Ironically, given the criticism of his report, Johnson describes himself as a registered Republican who “personifies conservativism.”) In the months following the leak, Johnson says in the interview below, DHS gutted its domestic terrorism analysis unit. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/167 "2013-04-16T17:25:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Reports surfacing indicate an “improvised device”, which is usually code for clumsy crude and amateurish. Which leans against such groups as AlQ or the IRA or any of dozens of vicious assholes who know what they are about when it comes to mayhem. > > What puzzles me most is the lack of any claim for responsibility. If this is some group of AlQ wannabes, how come Al-Jazz doesn’t know anything more than we do? Tea Party? Which one, there’s about fifty, squabbling over whether Obama is a Muslim socialist or an atheist Communist. > > All we know is evil, stupid, violent and inept. Which only lets out the Amish. Got this much of a wild assed guess: its somebody we never heard of before. Yeah, I think if 2 or more days go by with no group claiming responsibility, that means lone nutter is the likely culprit. That doesn’t rule out Islamist, as there are certainly lone nutters of that type as well as of the “survivalist/right-winger” type. Or maybe even someone disgruntled at the marathon itself-- don’t laugh, but you do have to qualify to run it. If someone put a gun to my head and said make a guess, I’d probably go for the right-wing lone nutter type, but I wouldn’t be too confident about that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/168 "2013-04-16T17:31:48Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > …If someone put a gun to my head and said make a guess… Gonna have to do better than that, **John** , I got a weapons-grade Frisbee and I know how to use it! I will Oddjob your ass! ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/169 "2013-04-16T17:33:21Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And “low grade explosives”. Again, points to unsophisticated and unconnected. Don’t know where to get the real stuff. Or sophisticated terrorists who realize that underground sources with access to serious munitions or explosives are FBI agents as often as not. That seems to be how half the foiled plots have ended in the last ten years. If I were a sophisticated terrorist, I’d be very nervous about accepting any help from outside sources. Basically, we don’t know anything right now. We’ve got so few pieces of the puzzle that you can configure them to suggest any picture you want. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/170 "2013-04-16T17:34:06Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Then, of course, you have the OP of this very thread: :rolleyes: Go fuck a cactus. I said I’d be surprised, and I would. I didn’t ever say anything definite, only that I have suspicions (for reasons many other posters have enumerated since). The fact that you take my remark in a completely different way than the plain words indicate is YOUR fucking problem. Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/171 "2013-04-16T17:36:45Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Or sophisticated terrorists who realize that underground sources with access to serious munitions or explosives are FBI agents as often as not. That’s why real AQ cells make their own. See [TATP](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/172 "2013-04-16T17:41:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well? We already have, for instance, Jared Lee Loughner, who satisfies both conditions – dunno if he’s ever actually been to a Tea Party rally, but it’s not an unfair brush to tar him with generally speaking. Timothy McVeigh belonged to no actual militia, but he was still a result and expression of that movement. And if its anti-government of the occupy type? Or sovereign citizen? Just as likely. The Tea Party is in no way possible a terrorist organization. AlQ obviously is. > [@elucidator](#): > > Reports surfacing indicate an “improvised device”, which is usually code for clumsy crude and amateurish. Which leans against such groups as AlQ or the IRA or any of dozens of vicious assholes who know what they are about when it comes to mayhem. > > What puzzles me most is the lack of any claim for responsibility. If this is some group of AlQ wannabes, how come Al-Jazz doesn’t know anything more than we do? Tea Party? Which one, there’s about fifty, squabbling over whether Obama is a Muslim socialist or an atheist Communist. > > All we know is evil, stupid, violent and inept. Which only lets out the Amish. Got this much of a wild assed guess: its somebody we never heard of before. I would not exactly call AlQ professionals. It’s a loosely affiliated group, many self taught. They use what they can get their hands on. Sometimes it’s crude. Sometimes they are morons and blow themselves up. Nothing revealed so far excludes any group at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/173 "2013-04-16T18:00:29Z")
In my mind it doesn’t matter if it was some heartbroken dude trying to get back at his girlfriend or a sophisticated attack by a well-organized and funded known terrorist organization, this was an act of terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/174 "2013-04-16T18:03:35Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > And if its anti-government of the occupy type? Wait, What?! Occupy was anti-government? I thought they were anti-bank and anti-Wall Street? ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/175 "2013-04-16T18:57:08Z")
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/homeland-security-warned-about-terrorist-use-of-pressure-cooker-bombs-in-2004/?hpid=z1) > [@Washington Post](#): > > Few Americans are likely to be familiar with pressure cooker bombs, the explosives reportedly used in Monday’s Boston Marathon attacks – but the Department of Homeland Security has been on alert for the devices since at least 2004, according to an internal memo from that year. > > The almost decade-old memo described pressure cooker bombs as “a technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps.” > > … > > The 2004 memo mentions foiled plots in France, Nepal and Jammu, India. A series of seven pressure cooker bombs killed more than 200 people in India in 2006, during the Mumbai train attacks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/176 "2013-04-16T19:17:22Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > In my mind it doesn’t matter if it was some heartbroken dude trying to get back at his girlfriend or a sophisticated attack by a well-organized and funded known terrorist organization, this was an act of terrorism. The only thing I can think of that would make this not terrorism is if someone had been targeting a particular individual. But that seems highly unlikely as this would be a terribly inefficient and inaccurate way to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/177 "2013-04-16T19:22:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I said I’d be surprised, and I would. I didn’t ever say anything definite, only that I have suspicions (for reasons many other posters have enumerated since). > > The fact that you take my remark in a completely different way than the plain words indicate is YOUR fucking problem. If you don’t want me to read your plain words and react to them then don’t post them. You said you’d be surprised if it’s not a tax day protest. You haven’t retracted that, which is fine. So I’m “taking your remark” in exactly the right way: You are eager to blame right wingers for this attack despite there being no evidence at all that’s who’s to blame. To you, and others who are so quick to blame the Tea Party: Do you want to put any money on it? My wild ass guess would be the odds of it being a Tea Party OK city type at less than 50%, so betting against it is not certain but it has an expected rate of return of \>1. How certain are you that it was a right wing, home grown terrorist? You willing to give me odds? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/178 "2013-04-16T19:26:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Wait, What?! Occupy was anti-government? I thought they were anti-bank and anti-Wall Street? Tomato, tomahto… ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/179 "2013-04-16T19:39:40Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > You said you’d be surprised if it’s not a tax day protest. You haven’t retracted that, which is fine. So I’m “taking your remark” in exactly the right way: You are eager to blame right wingers for this attack despite there being no evidence at all that’s who’s to blame. Just which words in his statement indicate eagerness? Seems you still like to attribute motives where none exist. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-goat-felching-douchenozzle-s-who-blew-up-the-boston-marathon/655788/180 "2013-04-16T19:44:10Z")
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