# I pit the Houston Independent School District **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624 "2016-05-25T03:29:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/81 "2016-05-28T13:50:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > There’s a Clothahump School For the Terminally Bewildered? Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/82 "2016-05-28T13:54:56Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > Fundies, always quoting the gospels. Now that, I had to laugh at. Fundies and I get along about as well as sodium and water. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NTFBXJ3Zd_4/maxresdefault.jpg "Sodium and water (Pond)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTFBXJ3Zd_4&t=39) ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/83 "2016-05-28T13:55:56Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Clothahump’s values: taxes trump ethics. Please explain why you think wasting taxpayer dollars like that is ethical behavior? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/84 "2016-05-28T14:04:07Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Please explain why you think wasting taxpayer dollars like that is ethical behavior? Please explain why pro-slavery traitors should be considered good role models. Never mind, it’s Texas. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/85 "2016-05-28T14:17:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Please explain why you think wasting taxpayer dollars like that is ethical behavior? Let’s say a group of Neo-Nazis raised $10m and offered it to HISD to rename an elementary school “Hitler Academy”. That’s $10M that could be used to improve education, or to cut a few bucks off everyone’s tax bill. Would you want HISD to take that money or turn it down? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/86 "2016-05-28T15:42:45Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fuck off. A touch, a touch I do confess! **Clothy** hath slain me with his masterful command of invective. His skill with the English language and its myriad styles of vituperation is surpassed only by his political wisdom and analysis. I am slain! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/87 "2016-05-28T17:50:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’ve already got schools named after people I think are losers. We’re stuck with them. But if HISD decided to change those school name for no valid reason whatsoever like they are doing now, I’d be bitching about the waste of taxpayer money just like I am now. Fortunately, in this case, there is a “valid reason.” Names matter. Political correctness is not always a bad idea (but of course can be, if taken to extremes). ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/88 "2016-05-28T20:02:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Please explain why pro-slavery traitors should be considered good role models. Sigh. George Santayana said it best: > [@](#): > > Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. If you people had your way, nobody would ever learn anything except revisionist history and the entire period from 1776-1865 would be taught in one sentence: Evil white people used to own black people. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/89 "2016-05-28T20:18:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. George Santayana said it best: > > If you people had your way, nobody would ever learn anything except revisionist history and the entire period from 1776-1865 would be taught in one sentence: Evil white people used to own black people. But they are not being erased from history, they’re merely being accorded the proper place in it. A place of disgrace rather than honor. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/90 "2016-05-28T20:58:31Z")
The local trash can, which is where every Confederate monument, memorial and namesake on a public building needs to be consigned, as is only appropriate for traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/91 "2016-05-28T21:26:03Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If you people had your way, nobody would ever learn anything except revisionist history and the entire period from 1776-1865 would be taught in one sentence: Evil white people used to own black people. But naming a school _Evil White Person Dick Dowling Who Fought Against The USA And Foiled The Invasion of Texas So That Black People Such As Nearly Half This School’s Student Population Could Continued To Be Owned School_ is too big a mouthful for a school name, and leaving it as it is at _Dick Dowling Elementary School_ would be continuing to revise history because it ignores actual, factual, proven history. The inappropriate name is just the tip of the iceberg. That district has been struggling with desegregation and separate-but-equal for decades, including Department of Justice involvement and court supervision as recent as [2003](http://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2478&context=ethj). The problem with racists such as yourself, Clothahump, is that you are dumber than dog shit and your fetid little minds are impervious to proven facts that conflict with your own self-revised view of the world. And yes, revisionism by racists such as yourself is an ongoing problem in the southern USA: > **[How Texas' School Board Tried to Pretend Slavery Never Happened and Why Your...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-texas-school-board-tr_b_586633)** > > By incorporating their own conservative values into guidelines for history classes, the Texas Board of Education may force the entire nation to adopt their right-wing re-write of history. > [@](#): > > After two years of heated political debate, the Texas State Board of Education spent the past week incorporating their own conservative values into final guidelines for history and social studies classes taught in the state’s public schools for the next 10 years. They voted late Friday to adopt a host of sweeping changes. In the process, their decisions may force the entire nation to also adopt their radical right-wing re-write of history. > > Among the proposed changes were plans to “teach” children to challenge the “solvency” of “long-term entitlements such as Social Security and Medicare” and other euphemistic views of history that, for example, would refer to the slave trade as simply the “Atlantic triangular trade.” Oh, the conservative members of the board also hoped that no one noticed that they omitted from textbooks the name of the 44th President of The United States: Barack Obama. > > The last two proposals were eventually amended. The “Atlantic triangular trade” language was finally changed to the “trans-Atlantic slave trade.” And one Republican board member ultimately relented in his demand to refer to the first black president only by his full name: Barack Hussein Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/92 "2016-05-28T22:13:35Z")
Now, **Muffin** , **Clothy** may be a lot of bad things: stupid, inarticulate, and conservative spring immediately to mind. But I don’t think I’ve ever heard/read him actually say anything that was actually blatantly racist. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/93 "2016-05-28T23:13:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Please explain why pro-slavery traitors should be considered good role models. > > Never mind, it’s Texas. The people who are making these changes are Texans, too! It’s a big state. We’ve got all kinds. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/94 "2016-05-28T23:19:14Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > The people who are making these changes are Texans, too! It’s a big state. We’ve got all kinds. If there were enough of them, Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott would be unemployed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/95 "2016-05-29T01:08:55Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Now, **Muffin** , **Clothy** may be a lot of bad things: stupid, inarticulate, and conservative spring immediately to mind. But I don’t think I’ve ever heard/read him actually say anything that was actually blatantly racist. His OP was racist, either out of ignorance or out of deliberation. His maintaining his racist position throughout the thread is out of deliberation. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/96 "2016-05-29T01:33:06Z")
Come to think of it, I recall Clothahump being penalized on another board for calling a black poster “Buckwheat” in a derogatory manner. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/97 "2016-05-29T01:42:26Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > His OP was racist, either out of ignorance or out of deliberation. His maintaining his racist position throughout the thread is out of deliberation. Fair enough. I was thinking outside of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/98 "2016-05-29T04:45:30Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sigh. George Santayana said it best: > > If you people had your way, nobody would ever learn anything except revisionist history and the entire period from 1776-1865 would be taught in one sentence: Evil white people used to own black people. You don’t seem to realize that the actual revisionism of history is that done by those who honor those traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/99 "2016-05-29T09:23:20Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If you people had your way, nobody would ever learn anything except revisionist history and the entire period from 1776-1865 would be taught in one sentence: Evil white people used to own black people. I have to disagree with you on this. The revisionists on this issue aren’t the people who are trying to put slavery back into history (as one part of history - not all of it). The real revisionists were the people who tried to take slavery out of history in the first place. Here’s the true history of the Confederates that a lot of southerners want to ignore: The Confederates declared war on the United States in order to protect their right to enslave people. I don’t see anything there that a modern American should wish to honor. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624/100 "2016-05-29T14:31:35Z")
I beg to differ. Those were Guest Workers here as part of the Triangle Trade. See, it says that right here in my approved Texas Big Book of U.S. History. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-houston-independent-school-district/755624.md?page=6)