# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 145
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2881 "2012-11-07T01:08:03Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Okay, what the bloody fuck kind of messed up drugs are you on? > > I give you a Republican strategist who worked on the McCain campaign specifically stating that HIS party is full of shit on this issue. > > You give me FOX _alleging_ that Democrats “must be” “for” voter fraud? > > You really and truly have lost your goddamn mind, Rick. And as much as I loathe you, it’s actually rather sad to see. You gave me a former McCain strategist. I gave you a former Clinton strategist. I guess “former strategists” speak with authority only when they help your side, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2882 "2012-11-07T01:09:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You gave me a former McCain strategist. I gave you a former Clinton strategist. > > I guess “former strategists” speak with authority only when they help your side, eh? Read my post, if you can get around to it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2883 "2012-11-07T01:25:28Z")
I’ve seen that guy talk on Maddow and others, and the difference is pretty clear. The Bald Guy, the bullet headed all-America Saxon mother’s son…he is definitely conservative, and fully aware of his environment than leans forward. I’ve heard him say some interesting stuff. The Toesucker, on the other hand, is a Fox goon, and when he talks he’s dumber than The Big Giant Head Hannity. Plus, he looks like he spent the last twelve hours in a hall closet frying fifty pounds of bacon. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2884 "2012-11-07T02:03:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Brave, brave, brave Sir **Bricker**. \*Bravely bold Sir Bricker rode forth from Camelot He was not afraid to lie, O brave Sir Bricker He was not at all afraid to be owned in nasty ways Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Bricker He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp Or to have his fraud gouged out and his sophistry broken To have his bullshit spilled and his bias burned away And his fibs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Bricker His cons smashed in and his bluffs cut out And his ruses removed and his fictions unplugged And his slander raped and his bias burnt off, and his pretense…\* ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2885 "2012-11-07T03:36:33Z")
**John DiFool** : I love you and want to spend a day at Disneyland with you! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2886 "2012-11-07T03:42:30Z")
Pip pip! Good show, that! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2887 "2012-11-07T03:44:01Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > - > > And his slander raped and his bias burnt off, and his pretense…\* That’s enough singing for now lads. There’s dirty work afoot. I sense… A fraudulent thought being had somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2888 "2012-11-07T03:57:03Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2889 "2012-11-07T03:59:08Z")
Fully half of my fellow citizens prefer a vacuum carved out of frozen mayonnaise. A mighty sobering thought, in the immortal words of Porky Pine. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2890 "2012-11-07T04:44:04Z")
Even cheating like whores, Bricker’s band of liars and thieves manage to fail. This does a kindness to my nads. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2891 "2012-11-07T19:01:16Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Is it sound medical policy to cut off someone’s leg? So, supporting a fascist coup is sometimes justifiable? Was Operation Gladio a net positive? What about the specific examples: Italy and Greece for instance? What about American involvement in Iran or Chile? Reminds me of this sage and venerable quote, from the Little Red Gospel: > [@Jesus](#): > > We shall support whatever our enemies oppose and oppose whatever our enemies support. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2892 "2012-11-07T19:41:15Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Is it sound medical policy to cut off someone’s leg? Sure, if the leg is incurably gangrenous. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2893 "2012-11-07T20:51:19Z")
Either liberal hypocrisy, or voter ID is very popular. ---
**Author:** ![Ispolkom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@Ispolkom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ispolkom)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2894 "2012-11-08T00:48:32Z")
The Voter ID Amendment in Minnesota was defeated yesterday by a decent margin. Today one supporter of the amendment blamed the defeat on “fear-mongering” by the opponents of the amendment. Insert Inigo Montoya quote [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2895 "2012-11-08T00:55:23Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Sure, if the leg is incurably gangrenous. What’s your point? That the original question can also be answered, “Yes, under the right conditions.” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2896 "2012-11-08T01:03:38Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That the original question can also be answered, “Yes, under the right conditions.” You okay, Bricker? Hug? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2897 "2012-11-08T01:26:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You gave me a former McCain strategist. I gave you a former Clinton strategist. > > I guess “former strategists” speak with authority only when they help your side, eh? No, I gave you a CURRENT REPUBLICAN strategist, you gave me a FORMER Democrat/NOW Fox Whore. Jackass Oh, and HA HA! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2898 "2012-11-08T01:39:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No – what makes me right is my willingness to use and abide by the process we have all accepted as the authoritative method to make laws. I have one idea, you have another – how we decide which of our ideas becomes the law is not a new problem. It’s been solved. I accept that process. You don’t. I agree the answer is to vote the fuckers out. OH WAIT!!! They are fucking with the right to vote so that this might be more difficult? ALL those political process answers aren’t as satisfying when you are talking about the right to vote.? ---
**Author:** ![TurboNuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@TurboNuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TurboNuke)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2899 "2012-11-08T10:38:49Z")
As a poll worker in New York State, I can tell you that we only currently are allowed to ask for ID if the signature does not match, a paper ballot is needed because the voter is not in the book or the voter gives the election offical a reason to question who they are. I had only 1 person out of 755 that had an ID problem. He drove up to the front of the school, ran in and scribbled something in the book. It did not look anything like his signature. Asked for ID. He flips. No one recognized him. Long story short, he starts screaming discrimination! Bull. He said he was going to call the cops. Then he drove away. Too bad he did not call the cops and explain how he was being discriminated against. Did I mrntion he drove with no ID? Requiring ID would not discriminate. If laws give say a year before they go into effect, There is no reason everyone can not have some form of ID. You have to show ID to get Social Security, to drive a car,and get food stamps, so the cry of discrimination just does not hold water. Voting is so important for all Americans. Why would anyone not want to protect it? (BTW, he was a white male, mid twenties). ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/2900 "2012-11-08T14:27:50Z")
I have no objection to voter ID rules designed carefully and fairly, with the intent to ease rather than hinder enfranchisement. The GOP suppression programs in 2012 were just the opposite: last-minute efforts introduced without time for review, and with the clear intent of suppression. Those defending these GOP programs are only contemptible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=144) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=146)