# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 373
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7441 "2014-11-05T02:59:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I voted this morning. Oh ghodz, the horrible effort of having to drag my driver’s license out of my wallet and hand it to someone. Why, it added a whole 15 seconds to the process! I feel sooo oppressed. You’re an ignorant old man living in a world of delusions and comfortable lies. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7442 "2014-11-05T04:38:41Z")
Tell us again about how Voter ID suppresses minority turnout, except when it increases it, Lobohan you putz. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7443 "2014-11-05T04:45:04Z")
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7444 "2014-11-05T04:54:44Z")
Is that the tack you’d like to take now, you wore out the other ones? That if laws crafted to suppress votes didn’t work, that would make it all OK? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7445 "2014-11-05T05:01:44Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Tell us again about how Voter ID suppresses minority turnout, except when it increases it, Lobohan you putz. Today I found out that you’re too stupid to understand that if you have two things modifying something, the total value can go up, but it can actually be lower than it would be. That’s just the sort of thing a global warming denier thinks. Bricker: If you weight 200kg and were measured wearing 1kg Crocs. But are later measured to be 201 kg, but are wearing 2kg combat boots, did you lose weight or gain it? Similarly, if you make it harder for people to vote, and it pisses them off, so that those that can vote in higher numbers, is it possible for the number of voters to be higher and for suppression to have taken place? Your ideology has made you stupid. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7446 "2014-11-05T05:14:46Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Today I found out that you’re too stupid to understand that if you have two things modifying something, the total value can go up, but it can actually be lower than it would be. > > That’s just the sort of thing a global warming denier thinks. > > Bricker: If you weight 200kg and were measured wearing 1kg Crocs. But are later measured to be 201 kg, but are wearing 2kg combat boots, did you lose weight or gain it? > > Similarly, if you make it harder for people to vote, and it pisses them off, so that those that can vote in higher numbers, is it possible for the number of voters to be higher and for suppression to have taken place? > > Your ideology has made you stupid. \<3 It’s of course mathematically possible. But you’re grasping at straws to try to claim it happened here. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7447 "2014-11-05T05:17:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It’s of course mathematically possible. > > But you’re grasping at straws to try to claim it happened here. No, you’re the dipshit asserting that since turnout was high, that there was no suppression. I was explaining that your assertion was wrong. Not saying that this is what happened. By the way, congratulations on your party getting the reins, they’re gonna hurt a lot of people and squander years of people’s lives that could have been lived in greater comfort, but at least you and I will probably pay less taxes. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7448 "2014-11-05T05:49:44Z")
Maybe that was the plan all along, the Republicans were just encouraging and invigorating the minority voter by peeing on his shoes and telling him its raining. Its Republican Outreach! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7449 "2014-11-05T13:27:27Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It means that liberalism appears at first blush to be about helping people and doing good, but upon closer examination it collapses into a realization that the ostensible help is simply a perpetuation of dependency and an effort to retain political power by creating a class of people who must keep the liberals in power to keep the largess flowing. 😕 You do realize that what you might call the food stamp vote is not electorally significant? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7450 "2014-11-05T14:07:32Z")
I wouldn’t say that **Bricker’s** ideology made him stupid. Rather, his lack of intellect led him to adopt an ideology that was most comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7451 "2014-11-05T14:21:01Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I wouldn’t say that **Bricker’s** ideology made him stupid. Rather, his lack of intellect led him to adopt an ideology that was most comfortable. Proof is in the puddin’, baby. Liberals deluded themselves, got shellacked. Bricker did not delude himself. Bricker = smart. Yea Bricker! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7452 "2014-11-05T14:52:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Proof is in the puddin’, baby. > > Liberals deluded themselves, got shellacked. Bricker did not delude himself. Bricker = smart. Yea Bricker! Deluded themselves how? Nothing from yesterday was surprising to me. Besides which, the pudding of your intellect is on display all the time on these boards. No doubt you have an adequate memory, and I would expect you were always an adequate student, but not particularly gifted or insightful. No particular creativity or talent. One well suited to retaining information provided by others and applying it in a mechanical fashion. Whatever the authority tells you, that’s where you function best. That’s your pudding. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7453 "2014-11-05T15:49:53Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Deluded themselves how? Nothing from yesterday was surprising to me. > > Besides which, the pudding of your intellect is on display all the time on these boards. No doubt you have an adequate memory, and I would expect you were always an adequate student, but not particularly gifted or insightful. No particular creativity or talent. One well suited to retaining information provided by others and applying it in a mechanical fashion. Whatever the authority tells you, that’s where you function best. > > That’s your pudding. I love the smell of desperation in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7454 "2014-11-05T16:03:14Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I love the smell of desperation in the morning. I imagine you wake up oddly happy every morning then. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7455 "2014-11-05T16:40:08Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Proof is in the puddin’, baby. > > Liberals deluded themselves, got shellacked. Bricker did not delude himself. Bricker = smart. Yea Bricker! [He is smart!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lxIL1WlxSQ) ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7456 "2014-11-05T19:23:20Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [He is smart!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lxIL1WlxSQ) Hey, it’s the guy who lied and said I vanished from the boards for three months following the 2012 election! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7457 "2014-11-05T20:58:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Hey, it’s the guy who lied and said I vanished from the boards for three months following the 2012 election! Oh, I’m sorry hypocrite, aren’t you the liar who said I “loved” when the Massachusetts’ legislature changed who appoints Senate replacements? Please don’t rag on other people for lying. It’s unseemly. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7458 "2014-11-05T21:00:54Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I imagine you wake up oddly happy every morning then. Well, until he looks around his lonely trailer and remembers the magnitude of his failings. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7459 "2014-11-05T21:35:29Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Oh, I’m sorry hypocrite, aren’t you the liar who said I “loved” when the Massachusetts’ legislature changed who appoints Senate replacements? > > Please don’t rag on other people for lying. It’s unseemly. > > \<3 It’s not as unseemly as the lies. And you’re not fooling too many people: of COURSE you loved it. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/7460 "2014-11-05T21:41:58Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It’s not as unseemly as the lies. > > And you’re not fooling too many people: of COURSE you loved it. Can you please cite that? It’s just that it’s not true, so I’d like to see what evidence you have for it. But I guess, you don’t really need evidence, since on Sunday night/Monday morning you believe that you SHIT AND PISS THE BODY AND BLOOD OF YOUR GOD OUT YOUR DICK AND ANUS!!1111one I keed, I keed. Anyway, how about you join us in factland and send over that cite? \<3 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=372) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=374)