# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 407
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8121 "2015-03-20T01:12:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Looks like \*\*Bricker \*\*is a little upset that **John Mace** has won the SDMB Non-partisan Homecoming Queen six years in a row. Making a stab for it, it seems… More like a bucket full of donkey blood falling on his head. I thought **FXMastermind** had the monopoly here on an utterly unreflecting and totally un-ironic hypocrisy. I was wrong. That’s saying a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8122 "2015-03-21T02:28:16Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > True, I suppose he could be such a dullard that he’s amazed by the common. > > Seems kind of insulting, but ok. It’s amazing that it is common, you simpering twat. I understand why evil people such as yourself vote GOP. It’s the masses of normal GOP voters that is amazing. Persuaded by the lies folk like yourself are fond of spinning. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8123 "2015-03-21T02:36:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And of course this is supported with a citation to several of the demonstrably dishonest things I’ve said here. > > Right? Because otherwise, you’d just be … well… You lied about my position on the Mass state legislature’s changing who chooses new Senators for years. You only stopped because you were getting piled on because it became common knowledge that you were doing it. That’d be one example. You also mentioned ACORN committing crimes, allowing the reader to assume that you were supporting the contention of ACORN committing voter fraud, when in fact, one branch had a motivational contest that ran afoul of local election rules. So you, do certainly lie. You do it every time you disingenuously make a post while pretending you’re too stupid to know that your solution only makes the problem (election results) worse. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8124 "2015-03-21T05:36:53Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > It’s amazing that it is common, you simpering twat. > > I understand why evil people such as yourself vote GOP. It’s the masses of normal GOP voters that is amazing. Persuaded by the lies folk like yourself are fond of spinning. If fairness, I think it safe to assume a significant portion of those masses have no interest whatever in what Bricker and those of similar mindset have to say about this issue. They select candidates based on one of the following criteria: 1. Who they perceive is least likely to impose regulations on guns. 2. Who they perceive is most likely to impose regulations on abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8125 "2015-03-21T06:21:07Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If fairness, I think it safe to assume a significant portion of those masses have no interest whatever in what Bricker and those of similar mindset have to say about this issue. They select candidates based on one of the following criteria: > > 1. Who they perceive is least likely to impose regulations on guns. > 2. Who they perceive is most likely to impose regulations on abortion. True enough. The GOP has the gun-nutter and bible-thumper demographics sewn up. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8126 "2015-03-21T16:03:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Too rational a response. Better to point out that SOLDIERS on THE FRONT LINES of IRAQ might have reduced hygiene standards, and then ask Bricker why he hates the troops. While I sailed (nucleared, actually) not soldiered, I rise to defend my brethren in arms in saying the Occupiers didn’t operate under the standards the Army and Marines on THE FRONT LINES of IRAQ do (warning: pdf): [the FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION Field Manual](http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm21_10.pdf). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8127 "2015-03-21T17:16:00Z")
Well, that section on dangerous arthropods and vermin. In Occupy Wall Street, the dangerous and poisonous vermin were safely behind glass in the surrounding Towers of Moloch. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8128 "2015-03-21T17:29:25Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why am I not surprised that the lefties are unable to grasp that someone might take a stance based on principle? Hmm. I can grasp it easily; but in **Bricker’s** case WRT voter-ID, I don’t believe it. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8129 "2015-03-21T18:32:24Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can grasp it easily; but in **Bricker’s** case WRT voter-ID, I don’t believe it. So, based on all of his posts, you think he is more blindly partisan that he is principled? Mind you, neither of those options gives his position any more weight. But I’m curious that if, with all the threads you interacted with him in, that is your net takeaway? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8130 "2015-03-21T19:46:17Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, based on all of his posts, you think he is more blindly partisan that he is principled? Why does his partisanhood (partisanship?) have to be blind? Granted, he won’t ADMIT partisan bias, but _we’re_ not blind, so we can detect it easily enough. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8131 "2015-03-21T20:15:21Z")
Lot of times I think its not so much that he lurves himself Republicans, he just can’t stand\* us\*. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8132 "2015-03-23T20:46:25Z")
Today, the Supreme Court declined the invitation to overturn Wisconsin’s Voter ID law. The Seventh Circuit upheld it, pointing out that the issue was already decided in _Crawford v. Marion County_, and panicked lefties wanted the Supreme Court to step in and undo the law. The Court did not do so. The Court needs only four votes to accept a case. The Court did not accept the invitation to overturn the Wisconsin Voter ID law, which means that the Wisconsin Voter ID law remains the law. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has already upheld the law. So has the Seventh Circuit, and the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision not to grant cert means that the decision is effectively final. This is, obviously, excellent news. Three cheers for the U.S. Supreme Court! Three jeers for the challengers! Today is a good day to be alive. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8133 "2015-03-23T21:04:49Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Why does his partisanhood (partisanship?) . . . Partizany! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8134 "2015-03-23T21:58:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Today, the Supreme Court declined the invitation to overturn Wisconsin’s Voter ID law…Today is a good day to be alive. So, then, if a law is legitimately passed and Constitutionally correct in its phrasing, then it is, by definition, impossible to use such a law for illegitimate purposes? We have the testimony of a universally admired expert on such matters that “some” Republicans had malign purposes in mind: the suppression of Democratic voters. You disagree with him? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8135 "2015-03-23T22:17:42Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Today, the Supreme Court declined the invitation to overturn Wisconsin’s Voter ID law. > > The Seventh Circuit upheld it, pointing out that the issue was already decided in _Crawford v. Marion County_, and panicked lefties wanted the Supreme Court to step in and undo the law. > > The Court did not do so. The Court needs only four votes to accept a case. The Court did not accept the invitation to overturn the Wisconsin Voter ID law, which means that the Wisconsin Voter ID law remains the law. > > The Wisconsin Supreme Court has already upheld the law. So has the Seventh Circuit, and the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision not to grant cert means that the decision is effectively final. > > This is, obviously, excellent news. Three cheers for the U.S. Supreme Court! Three jeers for the challengers! Today is a good day to be alive. Just out of curiosity, what percentage of your celebration stems from a good law being sustained (in warning, this will invite an explanation as to why this law is good, since I remain somewhat unclear on the matter) and what percentage is happiness that leftists were defeated? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8136 "2015-03-23T22:57:36Z")
You get that feeling too? That its less about proving he’s right than proving we’re wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8137 "2015-03-23T23:07:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, then, if a law is legitimately passed and Constitutionally correct in its phrasing, then it is, by definition, impossible to use such a law for illegitimate purposes? We have the testimony of a universally admired expert on such matters that “some” Republicans had malign purposes in mind: the suppression of Democratic voters. > > You disagree with him? Nope, he is wise and just. I agree with him, not just because he’s wise but because he has an almost infallible eye for the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8138 "2015-03-23T23:10:17Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Just out of curiosity, what percentage of your celebration stems from a good law being sustained (in warning, this will invite an explanation as to why this law is good, since I remain somewhat unclear on the matter) and what percentage is happiness that leftists were defeated? Happiness that a good law was upheld: 100% Happiness that leftists were defeated: 6.023 x 10[sup]23[/sup] % Values may be satirical. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8139 "2015-03-23T23:12:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Nope, he is wise and just. I agree with him, not just because he’s wise but because he has an almost infallible eye for the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle. He also does for evasion what Godzilla does for lizards. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8140 "2015-03-23T23:12:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You get that feeling too? That its less about proving he’s right than proving we’re wrong? It’s so beautiful when both are true. It’s always beautiful. Lewis Carroll loved syllogisms. Me too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=406) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=408)