# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1)

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**Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\
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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I don’t know where you got any of that. So suppose the voodoo thing happened. You personally would not have done it, but the Republicans in charge of that place did do it. Then some liberals start a thread entitled “I pit the voodoo-priest-bribing GOP vote-suppressors”. Would your initial impulse be to join in the pitting, or to defend the legality of the action?

Did you discount the part where I said that I might have done it after all, depending on the overall picture? If, for example, I felt the opposition had done so etching technically legal but questionable ethically, I might conclude that the voodoo tactic was justified?

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> I’m saying they’re detestable.

I don’t really agree…but if that were the only message I heard, I probably wouldn’t choose to join a thread and counter your statements. I’d feel that detestable was too strong, but that I understood how you might think it justified.

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> After the nth time you ominously used the phrase “Walking around money”, I finally actually read about it. Turns out that when I flew to Pennsyvania to stay with my cousin for a few days right before the 2008 election and went around knocking on doors trying to get out the vote, and there were doughnuts at the house of the neighborhood organizer, I was engaged in an act of political chicanery that is absolutely comparable to changing the law so that senior citizens won’t be able to vote. Who knew? You have finally found Liberal Hypocrisy!!!

If that were the only use of walking-around money, then your sarcasm would be justified. But as [Democrat Jeff Smith](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/walking-around-money-how-machine-politics-works-in-america-today/276503/) explains:

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> Many American cities have a storied tradition of machine politics. But in recent decades, party electioneering has evolved into arrangements whereby candidates and parties pay people small amounts of cash in exchange for GOTV efforts like canvassing. When I represented an inner-city St. Louis state Senate district, I was often approached by operatives proposing such arrangements. That’s not strictly illegal, but it creates a lot of untraceable campaign cash, and it’s vulnerable to corruption. (Although I declined, I did run afoul of federal campaign-finance law during my 2004 U.S. House race: I approved coordination between two aides and an outside party who created a flier about my opponent’s legislative attendance record. I then lied when asked about it, earning me eight months in federal prison for obstruction of justice.) I know people who have disbursed several hundred thousand dollars on Election Day. In some cases, the process is blunter, not to mention illegal: Low-level operatives simply distribute cash in even smaller increments to individual voters.

I assume the doughnuts you ate were not stuffed with untraceable bills.

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> More seriously, though, if your opinion is that the voodoo bribe would just be a “dirty trick”, then I think you have to ask yourself whether it’s massively escalating the level of dirty trick that is being practiced.

I don’t agree it’s massively escalating the level of dirty trick.

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> So just to be clear, the most extreme example that has been bought up in this thread of someone having to devote many hours driving to and from DMVs and whatnot is so minor that if that was what literally everyone had to do you would still not find it too onerous? You’re not just saying “the worst examples that have been brought up are acceptable as the extreme”, you’re saying “they would be acceptable even as the average”?

No. I am saying that any scheme will inconvenience some more than others.

If I live across the street from the polling place, I can walk over, rain or shine. But there is some poor schlub who lives the farthest possible place away from the polling place (but still in the precinct). He has a tougher time than I do.

Now, perhaps if the polling locations were set up so that every single voter had to go that far, I might take a dim view of it. But my sanguine view is motivated by the fact that even the worse cases I have heard strike me as tolerable, AND there are very very few of them.

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> So, remember, I’m complimenting you by saying that you probably have a 99.9%+ chance of successfully navigating whatever obstacle it is. But that’s not a certainty. So let’s say that democrats gain control of the state legislature of your state (Virginia?), and pass a law which shuffles a bunch of polling places around and requires voters to re-specify which one they will be voting at, with some reasonable justification (it will save money), but everyone knows that the real reason they did it was because the new metric, when neutrally applied, means that all the rural areas (heavily Republican) will get reshuffled, but all the urban areas (heavily Democratic) will not.
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> So you are quite confident that this will not stop you, since you’re a lawyer and a very politically involved person. So first you put off dealing with it for maybe a bit longer than you should have. Then an absolute comedy of errors ensues, in which one time when you could go do the registering you are sick, then the next time your car has broken down, then the next time your first grandchild is being born, and then next time it turns out that an innocent clerical error prevents it, and you have to deal with fixing that clerical error, and on and on, and you end up putting an awful lot of effort in (although you could have done more), and you just don’t get it resolved in time to vote in the next election, and then your state goes narrowly democratic, and studies suggest that the margin was less than the number of red votes “suppressed” by this new scheme. Now, presumably the vast majority of people who were “suppressed” didn’t have your experience, most of them were just lazy and forgot to deal with it. But you certainly didn’t fit into that category.
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> So, at the end of that hypothetical, would you feel that you had been wronged by the democrats int he legislature? Would you feel that words like “disenfranchisement” and “suppression” were reasonable to use? Would you go start a “I pit the polling-place-moving Democratic vote-suppressors” thread? Would you get pissy if someone else in that thread just kept going on and on about how it was legal and it was the will of the people and it had a valid neutral justification and why are you trying to impose your will on everyone?

No, I’d think I had an unpredictable run of bad luck, and shit happens. I’d put on my big boy pants and work to avoid similar problems in the future.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No, I’d think I had an unpredictable run of bad luck, and shit happens. I’d put on my big boy pants and work to avoid similar problems in the future.

This sounds suspiciously like personal responsibility. Your lack of blaming someone else for your misfortunes makes me seriously question your commitment to America! 🙂

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8883 "2016-03-15T19:37:32Z")

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[The North Carolina ID law is having its intended effects.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760266/north-carolina-voter-id/)

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> About 218,000 North Carolinians, roughly five percent of registered voters, do not have an acceptable form of government-issued ID that is now required under state law to cast a ballot.  
> Early voting offered a glimpse of the problems that will arise on Tuesday — during the past ten days of early voting, many college students were blocked from the polls. North Carolina’s WRAL reported that 864 people across the state had cast provisional early ballots because they did not have acceptable forms of ID, and four of the five counties with the highest concentrations of provisional ballots from voters without ID were in places with college campuses.

As to the “esteem too lightly” bullshit we’ve been so lavishly provided here:

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> Elderly voters told the Nation’s Ari Berman how the voter ID law imposes similar barriers to voting to what they experienced in the Jim Crow South. Rosanell Eaton, a 94-year-old voter, had to recite the Preamble to Constitution to vote in North Carolina in the 1940s. Last year, she had to make 11 trips to state agencies to comply with the voter ID law.

[As a reminder, btw:](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/28/republicans-admit-voter-id-laws-are-aimed-at-democratic-voters.html)

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> After the election, former Florida GOP chairman Jim Greer told The Palm Beach Post that the explicit goal of the state’s voter-ID law was Democratic suppression. “The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer told the Post. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only … ‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us,’” he said. Indeed, the Florida Republican Party imposed a host of policies, from longer ballots to fewer precincts in minority areas, meant to discourage voting. And it worked. According to one study, as many as 49,000 people were discouraged from voting in November 2012 as a result of long lines and other obstacles.
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> One could spend hours going through the abundant evidence that these laws are meant to discourage Democratic voting with burdens that harm blacks, Latinos, and other disproportionately low-income groups. In 2011 an Associated Press analysis found that South Carolina’s proposed voter-identification law would hit black precincts the hardest, keeping thousands from casting nonprovisional ballots. Likewise, if Alabama’s voter-ID law goes into effect, it will place its largest burden on black voters who lack acceptable forms of identification and don’t have immediate access to alternatives. And while most of these laws—which, it’s worth noting, have been passed in most of the states of the former Confederacy—provide for free identification, it’s not an easy reach. To get one in Mississippi, for instance, residents need a birth certificate, which costs $15 and requires the photo identification they don’t have. They’ll also need time to travel to the state office to pay or a computer to do the transaction online.

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Are students residents of the state they go to college in?

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8885 "2016-03-15T20:59:50Z")

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Not always. It’s perfectly possible to be a legal resident of one state, and vote there, while going to college in another state.

ETA: (Like several Presidents of the U.S., while in office in D.C., who resided and voted in their “home states.”)

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Not always. It’s perfectly possible to be a legal resident of one state, and vote there, while going to college in another state.
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> ETA: (Like several Presidents of the U.S., while in office in D.C., who resided and voted in their “home states.”)

The reason I asked is that one student in that news story wanted to vote in North Carolina, where she is a sophomore in college, but she only had an Alabama drivers license. If she switched residency to NC, it seems likely she would get a NC drivers license. At least to me it does.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8887 "2016-03-15T21:14:22Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> The reason I asked is that one student in that news story wanted to vote in North Carolina, where she is a sophomore in college, but she only had an Alabama drivers license. If she switched residency to NC, it seems likely she would get a NC drivers license. At least to me it does.

Why would she get a drivers license if she doesn’t have a car in NC? An out of state driver’s license is perfectly valid for most proof-of-identity and proof-of-age purposes.

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Why would she get a drivers license if she doesn’t have a car in NC? An out of state driver’s license is perfectly valid for most proof-of-identity and proof-of-age purposes.

Maybe to comply with the new voter ID laws that were passed 3 years before?

And besides, who says she didn’t have a car?

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From the North Carolina _News and Observer_:

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> \*\* My brush with North Carolina voter ID law\*\*
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> I went to vote during the early voting period in the North Carolina primaries. I am aware of the new law that requires a person to present a photo ID in order to vote.
> 
> I gave my driver’s license to a poll worker, HW. He kept it face down and ordered me to spell my name.
> 
> Although I go by Rudy, my legal name is Rudravajhala. In order to save time, I requested HW look at my ID. He barked, “You gotta spell it!”
> 
> So I took a deep breath and began. “R-U-D-”
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> He repeated after me and typed each letter. When he typed a B instead of a D, I had to correct him, “It’s not B; it’s D for dog.”
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> This farce went on a for a while, and each time he made a mistake, I patiently corrected. Meanwhile, voters in adjacent lines came and went briskly. I heaved a sigh of relief when HW finally entered my mouthful of a name into his computer and peered at the monitor. And then I had to pronounce it, and when he tried, he couldn’t get it right.
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> He asked, “Your address?”
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> With a tight smile, I gave it. Already my blood pressure was quite high, and I knew if this charade continued, I might be tempted to walk out without voting. But luckily the ordeal came to an end, and with a smirk HW declared that I am the perfect voter. I almost told him that he is the perfect so and so. But I bit my tongue, as I was concerned that in these trigger happy days, HW might summon the police to haul me off.
> 
> Since my wife was out of town last week, I drove her to the designated polling place (not the same place I voted) on Election Day. This time poll worker NX subjected my wife to a similar ritual. Keeping her ID face down, he asked her to spell her name and pronounce it.
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> Our two Caucasian friends who live in different areas of town voted at different polling places. In contrast to our humiliating experience, however, they did not have to pass the spelling test and after a cursory glance at their IDs were allowed to vote.

So you not only need to get the requisite ID, you have to make certain that the idiot clerk doesn’t misspell it and disqualify you. If you’re not white.

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> I called the N.C. State Board of Elections in Raleigh and was pleasantly surprised when a live person answered. The moment she realized that a difficult situation was at hand, I was transferred to her superior. He listened to my saga patiently and suggested that I lodge a formal complaint with the director of the New Hanover County Board of Elections. He also promised to email the director.
> 
> When the director called me, he was understanding and appeared to empathize with my plight. He said that the poll workers overstepped their authority and that they had no reason to subject us to that unnecessary exercise. He said poll workers only have to look at a photo ID to ascertain the bonafide of a voter. He apologized profusely.
> 
> In the final analysis, this is a bad law and subject to overinterpretation by overzealous, and possibly rogue, officials.

[http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article66929422.html](http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article66929422.html)

So the law as written is perfectly valid, and you need have no complaints.

That doesn’t mean that, in practice, you’ll get to vote. Unless you’re vigilant.  
And this is for someone who actually _HAS_ a valid ID.

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I’m struggling to see how that scenario would have played out differently without the photo ID laws. The voter’s name has be checked agains the roster, no? That gives the clerk the same opportunity to play that game, no?

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The voter would not have been required to play along with this shit if he’d had white skin, no?

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I’m not arguing about that. I just don’t see how the Voter ID law caused this problem. You can’t just waltz into a polling station, grab a ballot and vote, so you have to give your name to someone, and that someone can then play this same game.

Am I wrong?

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I’d be more tempted to blame that on the recent amendments to the Voting Rights Act, depending on where in NC this took place.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’d be more tempted to blame that on the recent amendments to the Voting Rights Act, depending on where in NC this took place.

How so?

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m struggling to see how that scenario would have played out differently without the photo ID laws. The voter’s name has be checked agains the roster, no? That gives the clerk the same opportunity to play that game, no?

The ID law wouldn’t of course. As I pointed out at the end, the voters _had_ proper IDs.

But the title of this thread, lest we forget, is “I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote suppressors”, not “I pit the Voter ID law”, so this post is completely appropriate.  
And, in case anyone raises the point, it boggles the mind to think that someone might think that this might be a Democratic operative busting the chops of this prospective voter, for reasons that have been much hashed out above and elsewhere

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/8896 "2016-03-22T16:00:29Z")

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What good is it for a polling place official to demand an ID if he’s not going to look at it?

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> How so?

IANAL; I was just thinking broadly about the requirement that there be no “test or device” that may impede the casting of a vote (or registration therefor).

And while spelling one’s own name is not in itself, by any measure, an onerous task, when the task becomes “spell your name over and over, correcting any mistakes the poll worker is making, in an exercise that takes several times the length of time other voters required to obtain a ballot and vote”, I think we’re straying into that territory. And when a second person with similar ethnicity is forced to undergo the same process (by a different poll worker) and people of white ethnicities are not, that’s a red flag. And of course when the State and County Boards of Elections both agree that the exercise was unnecessary, it does tend to confirm one’s suspicions.

Not that I’m suggesting that the people involved should sue - the local Boards of Elections, as noted, acted appropriately - but there do seem to be more of these incidents post-2014.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The ID law wouldn’t of course. As I pointed out at the end, the voters _had_ proper IDs.
> 
> But the title of this thread, lest we forget, is “I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote suppressors”, not “I pit the Voter ID law”, so this post is completely appropriate.

Oh, OK. I took your posting "So the law as written is perfectly valid, and you need have no complaints. " as a reference to the Voter ID law. But even if we agree that the clerk in question is more likely to be a Republican than a Democrat, the fact is we simply don’t know.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What good is it for a polling place official to demand an ID if he’s not going to look at it?

Well, no good at all, of course. The clerk was, at best, being an asshole and at worst violating the rights of the voters. However, if no ID were required at all, do you think the instances of “spell your name” would increase or decrease, for minorities in particular?

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[Arizona primary: Maricopa County had one polling site for every 21,000 voters](http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/22/live-arizona-primary-coverage-presidential-preference-election/82096726/)

Much better way to suppress votes in Democratic areas - just don’t give 'em a place to vote or working voting machines.

In the crucial state of Ohio in 2004 one of my daughter’s friends waited in line in a cold rain for five hours to vote near Oberlin College. Suburban GOP areas had no such wait times.

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> Most counties surveyed by The Arizona Republic had enough polling places to average 2,500 or fewer eligible voters per polling site. Maricopa County had only one site per every 21,000 voters.
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> Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters, said the Pima County had 130 polling places open for this election. That’s more than double the 60 polling places that were open in Maricopa County, where huge lines plagued polls and some people had to wait hours to vote.
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> Ballots had to be rushed to one Phoenix site amid overwhelming voter demand, and witnesses say an elderly woman fainted while waiting in a long line in Maricopa County, which had fewer than half as many polling sites as much smaller Pima County.

By now, it’s an old GOP trick.

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But the law as written says this is perfectly valid, and you need have no complaints.

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