# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 472
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9421 "2016-04-21T05:08:27Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Sorry, I’d rather just mock you for being a twat. And I commend you on your use of a smaller font, at least you learned something in your “Message Boards for basement dwellers” class. You know in a movie when a skinny, weak guy is swinging while the stronger guy is just pushing on his head to keep him out of reach. Yeah… This is just… not fun. Go in peace. You’ve suffered enough. \<3 P.S. Seriously though, maybe bring a dildo the size of a normal penis and you can alternate off with it. She likes you as a person, and we want this to work. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9422 "2016-04-21T05:10:17Z")
So, when are you two lovebirds going to stab and make up? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9423 "2016-04-21T05:12:48Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You know in a movie when a skinny, weak guy is swinging while the stronger guy is just pushing on his head to keep him out of reach. > > Yeah… This is just… not fun. > > Go in peace. You’ve suffered enough. \<3 > > P.S. Seriously though, maybe bring a dildo the size of a normal penis and you can alternate off with it. She likes you as a person, and we want this to work. This is the greatest response ever! You actually think I care what you say! You are a moron on a message board. Enjoy your idiocy! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9424 "2016-04-21T05:19:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, when are you two lovebirds going to stab and make up? I can only offer the olive branch for so long. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9425 "2016-04-21T06:21:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hold on a second there, hoss. You say these other laws “…do not enjoy that same presumption of federal constitutionality…”. Seems to me that’s a difference right there. Further, you assure me that “doesn’t help” me. Is that the unanimous opinion of all legal beagles, or the Gospel According to **Bricker**? Any answer I give you that you like will be accepted as gospel. Any answer I give you that you don’t like will be disbelieved. So, yes: every single legal analyst on the planet agrees with me. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9426 "2016-04-21T06:28:33Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > I didn’t mention you at all. I referred to the pro-life movement. > > It’s not at all realistic, but, still, it’s what I’d like to see happen. It’s what I “want.” I also want universal health care and a pony. The point here is that I’m doing nothing whatever wrong in wanting these things, believing that this is what would be “right,” and voting for candidates on this basis, exactly the way the pro-life movement functions. Then, equally, I am doing nothing by reacting to these unrealistic goals in similar fashion to how the pro-choice movement reacts to pro-lifers who speak of declaring abortion unconstitutional. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9427 "2016-04-21T09:57:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Then, equally, I am doing nothing by reacting to these unrealistic goals in similar fashion to how the pro-choice movement reacts to pro-lifers who speak of declaring abortion unconstitutional. > > Right? I doubt anyone is saying you don’t have the right to feel as you choose about whatever you choose. If they do, you can tell them I said to stop that. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9428 "2016-04-21T10:01:13Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > This is the greatest response ever! You actually think I care what you say! You are a moron on a message board. Enjoy your idiocy! You sound less amused. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9429 "2016-04-21T11:36:35Z")
Remember when this thread was about Voter ID laws? Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9430 "2016-04-21T11:39:37Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I doubt anyone is saying you don’t have the right to feel as you choose about whatever you choose. > > If they do, you can tell them I said to stop that. And, equally, I am not telling anyone that they don’t have the right to feel as they choose about whatever they choose. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9431 "2016-04-21T11:55:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And, equally, I am not telling anyone that they don’t have the right to feel as they choose about whatever they choose. But you have made every effort to hector them with your neener-neener comments. Spare us your false illusion of genial probity. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9432 "2016-04-21T12:21:20Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > But you have made every effort to hector them with your neener-neener comments. Spare us your false illusion of genial probity. You can’t find a single post of mine in which I “hector” anyone solely for what they feel. I do respond strongly to people who, in addition to feeling things that aren’t accurate, post those things here. So if you feel, in your heart, that Voter ID is unconstitutional, I am genial indeed. If you POST that Voter ID is unconstitutional, then I will correct you, and if you persist, so will I. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9433 "2016-04-21T17:01:23Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You can’t find a single post of mine in which I “hector” anyone solely for what they feel. Is that when you drag their lifeless corpse around the city of Troy behind your chariot? Well, I certainly hope not. Even in these nearly ten thousand posts, I doubt I could find an example of that. You have given the impression of being quite giddy as to the prospect that those who feel differently than you are disappointed in the results and perceived consequences of these laws, however, and that may have been what they were referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9434 "2016-04-21T17:02:35Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You can’t find a single post of mine in which I “hector” anyone solely for what they feel. Your first post in this thread, for sufficiently broad but not forced definitions of “hector”. And if not “hector”, several alternative and comparably unflattering verbs can be found. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9435 "2016-04-28T11:01:24Z")
[Trevor Noah makes clear](http://www.cc.com/video-clips/rwg65p/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-voting-rights-for-virginia-s-previously-incarcerated-citizens?xrs=synd_FBPAGE_20160428_449553786_The%20Daily%20Show_GIF%20with%20Link&linkId=23934375) (well, he doesn’t expose it; it was already obvious) how the denial of voting rights to felons is rooted in race. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9436 "2016-04-29T14:23:44Z")
Former Republican senator Jim DeMint admits voter identification laws are [intended to elect more conservatives](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/tea-party-activist-admits-voter-id-laws-intended-to-elect-more-conservative-candidates/): > [@](#): > > The conservative activist said Republicans seek voter ID laws to help maintain their grip on power. > > “It’s really a bigger issue, and that’s why the left fights voter ID or any kind of picture ID to know that it is actually a registered voter who’s voting,” DeMint said. “So it’s something we’re working on all over the country, because in the states where they do have voter ID laws you’ve seen, actually, elections begin to change towards more conservative candidates.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9437 "2016-04-29T14:39:44Z")
The longer quote also contains the justification that it is all necessary because the Dems are actively encouraging illegal voting. > [@](#): > > "…I haven’t seen an complete analysis here, but the left is trying to draw votes from illegals, from voter fraud, a lot of different things, so this kind of fits right in to trying to find another group that they can basically count on to vote their way.”… However, I do not contend that any of this is unConstitutional. Merely unjust, corrupt and kinda rotten. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9438 "2016-05-01T12:07:59Z")
The word is _lie_. The same lie \*\*Bricker \*\*has been loyally parroting in this thread for literally years. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9439 "2016-05-01T15:55:00Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You can’t find a single post of mine in which I “hector” anyone solely for what they feel. > > I do respond strongly to people who, in addition to feeling things that aren’t accurate, post those things here. So if you feel, in your heart, that Voter ID is unconstitutional, I am genial indeed. If you POST that Voter ID is unconstitutional, then I will correct you, and if you persist, so will I. Where in tarnation do your ideas come from? Mushrooms? LSD? I for one would happily support voter ID if it were implemented in a fair fashion, i.e. not by malicious Republiopaths trying to make a mockery of American democracy. I’ve no idea whether anyone posted that “Voter ID is unconstitutional” — I suspect that you’re distorting what someone wrote. Perhaps something like: **The constitutional right _One Man — One Vote_ is violated by malicious laws intended to achieve _One Man likely to vote against the GOP but whom we can harrass — Zero Vote_** HTH. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/9440 "2016-05-01T22:39:26Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’ve no idea whether anyone posted that “Voter ID is unconstitutional” — I suspect that you’re distorting what someone wrote. What do you mean you have no idea? You don’t read the threads that you are posting to? Here’s a direct quote, no distortion. > [@Trinopus](#): > > Voter ID laws are immoral…and constitutionally invalid also. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19257609&postcount=9075](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19257609&postcount=9075) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=471) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=473)