# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 521
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10401 "2016-11-03T12:19:18Z")
Dead people voting is much more likely to be insider fraud or absentee fraud; neither of which would be prevented by ID. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10402 "2016-11-03T12:21:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s not exactly sound logic. A few people get caught: we don’t need voter ID! No one gets caught: There’s no voter fraud! It’s very sound when you consider the likelihood of being caught. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10403 "2016-11-04T21:38:11Z")
[Twitter Finally Blocks Attempt To Disenfranchise Voters](https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-doesnt-think-this-attempt-to-disenfranchise-voters-v?utm_term=.ycAdQ9eDe#.vo7Q0vBbB) Vladimir teaching the trumpsters some of his tricks. > [@](#): > > Yesterday, Robert McNees, a physics professor at Loyola University, was curiously scanning through the popular alt-right account @TheRickyVaughn when he came across a number of tweets apparently designed to spread misinformation about voting among African-American and Spanish-speaking citizens. The tweets told voters they could “avoid the line” and “vote from home” via text (which, to be clear, they can’t). They were photoshopped to look as if they’d been created by the Clinton campaign, down to the small-print “Paid for by Hillary for President 2016” disclaimer at the bottom. > > The photoshopped campaign ads may violate FEC laws. They also appear to be in direct violation of Twitter’s policies, which state in part that “Twitter accounts portraying another person in a confusing or deceptive manner may be permanently suspended.” The tweets could also be in violation of Twitter’s spam rules. > These kinds of fake voter ads have appeared on Twitter from numerous Trump-supporting accounts during the campaign; just last month, the Democratic National Committee condemned a similar fake voter ad tweet sent out by Trump adviser Roger Stone. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10404 "2016-11-06T16:34:46Z")
This is a hilarious video of sheltered white liberals voicing their opinions on Black Americans, and actual Black people that SDMBers and these white liberals will never come into contact with. It lampoons the arguments against ID laws quite effectively. This is just one aspect of liberal confusion about real life. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rrBxZGWCdgs/maxresdefault.jpg "Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10405 "2016-11-06T16:45:25Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > This is a hilarious video of sheltered white liberals voicing their opinions on Black Americans, and actual Black people that SDMBers and these white liberals will never come into contact with. It lampoons the arguments against ID laws quite effectively. This is just one aspect of liberal confusion about real life. > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs) Please explain to us how you know so much about each and every SDMBer and who they do and do not come into contact with. Once you’ve convincingly done that, maybe I’ll waste some time looking at your video. ETA: Extra Credit Question: Show us that you, **WillFarnaby** , do come into contact with these people that you claim the rest of us don’t, and how that gives you special knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10406 "2016-11-06T17:22:13Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Please explain to us how you know so much about each and every SDMBer and who they do and do not come into contact with. Once you’ve convincingly done that, maybe I’ll waste some time looking at your video. > > ETA: Extra Credit Question: Show us that you, **WillFarnaby** , do come into contact with these people that you claim the rest of us don’t, and how that gives you special knowledge. The only way I can imagine that typical SDMBers hold such ridiculous views on the capabilities of Black Americans is to assume they do not know any. There was a poll during the Democratic primary that saw Bernie Sanders absolutely crushing. This buttresses my claim because Sanders only got any play where there were no Black people. In any case I take certain liberties because it pleases me to do so. I see you live “near Philadelphia”, I don’t know how near but you may not be one of those I enjoy lampooning. I don’t feel particularly compelled to “show” you. Let’s just say that i view human beings as individuals with agency, not atoms ping-ponging around the universe. This knowledge is only special because most SDMBers lack it. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10407 "2016-11-06T17:25:48Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > . . . Let’s just say that i view human beings as individuals with agency, not atoms ping-ponging around the universe. . . . Then why do you make blanket statements about all liberals, as if they are all the same as ping pong balls? (All libertarians are either dope smokers, gun toters, or tax dodgers.) ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10408 "2016-11-06T17:30:17Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Then why do you make blanket statements about all liberals, as if they are all the same as ping pong balls? > > (All libertarians are either dope smokers, gun toters, or tax dodgers.) So putting everyone of an ideology in a basket is as bad as putting all those of a skin color in a basket? (former, never, trying hard) ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10409 "2016-11-06T18:42:30Z")
[Vote suppression in Florida](http://theproudliberal.org/as-early-voting-wraps-up-florida-gop-busted-trying-to-throw-out-thousands-of-mail-in-ballots/) I’m guessing that the rejected ballots come mostly (entirely?) from areas that tend to vote for the Democratic candidates. > [@](#): > > In a story that has not been able to gain much traction in the national news, the top election official in Florida – the Florida Secretary of State, Ken Detzner – has been sharply rebuked and reprimanded for attempting a disgusting misuse of the legal system to prevent thousands of mail-in ballots from being counted in the presidential election. Detzner was appointed by Republican Governor, Rick Scott. > > ABC broke the story, saying “U.S. District Judge Mark Walker accused Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner of delaying a hearing on the lawsuit “so that he could use every second available to run out the clock” so there wouldn’t be enough time to address problems raised in the lawsuit. The judge also said Detzner’s actions amounted to an “undeclared war’ on the right to vote in Florida, the largest swing state in the presidential election…” This court will not allow the Florida Secretary of State — a high-level officer of the State of Florida — to take a knee and deprive Florida citizens of their most precious right,” Walker said in his order.” In NYS we ask challenged voters to sign an oath. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10410 "2016-11-06T19:43:33Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > This is a hilarious video of sheltered white liberals voicing their opinions on Black Americans, and actual Black people that SDMBers and these white liberals will never come into contact with. It lampoons the arguments against ID laws quite effectively. This is just one aspect of liberal confusion about real life. > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs) That’s a good video. North Carolina could’ve used it in their court case against those sheltered liberal judges. Maybe next time. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10411 "2016-11-06T23:19:09Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > That’s a good video. North Carolina could’ve used it in their court case against those sheltered liberal judges. Maybe next time. Why are you mad? Does witnessing minorities laughing at your white confusion and ignorance make you want to hang up your cape? I would suggest saving the dolphins, but I think it’s been proven that they have more cognitive ability than your liberal mind bestows upon Black Americans. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10412 "2016-11-06T23:33:11Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > … and actual Black people that SDMBers and these white liberals will never come into contact with…[URL=“[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs)”] Yeah, dumbass, here due south of the city of Chicago I never ever come into contact with the people who live next door to me. Every time I think I’ve encountered the stupidest fucking right winger on this board, an even dumber one shows up. If there is a dumber one than you, I doubt he’ll be able to figure out the registration process. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10413 "2016-11-06T23:43:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, dumbass, here due south of the city of Chicago I never ever come into contact with the people who live next door to me. Every time I think I’ve encountered the stupidest fucking right winger on this board, an even dumber one shows up. If there is a dumber one than you, I doubt he’ll be able to figure out the registration process. You must live a busy life rushing out to help your next-door neighbors negotiate the internet and making sure they can find their way to the DMV. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10414 "2016-11-06T23:53:28Z")
Are you trying to _prove_ that you are the dumbest fucker in the room? There is no further action on your part required. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10415 "2016-11-07T00:15:37Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Are you trying to _prove_ that you are the dumbest fucker in the room? There is no further action on your part required. Perhaps you are troubled by your burden. Don’t be mad. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10416 "2016-11-07T00:21:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Perhaps you are troubled by your burden. Don’t be mad. Awww, that’s cute. Don’t worry, you’re not _that much_ of a burden. You’re more like a brain-damaged muppet. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10417 "2016-11-07T10:23:31Z")
Always entertaining to see “You people clearly live sheltered lives” and “I don’t have any problem getting to the DMV therefore other people are stupid if they can’t get to the DMV” arguments coming from the same person. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10418 "2016-11-07T15:31:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Always entertaining to see “You people clearly live sheltered lives” and “I don’t have any problem getting to the DMV therefore other people are stupid if they can’t get to the DMV” arguments coming from the same person. Except I didn’t make the second argument. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10419 "2016-11-07T15:49:53Z")
Kurt EichenwaldVerified account ‏@kurteichenwald I was able 2 vote in 10 mins. The nurse’s aide who helped my mom took 3 hours. Guess what race each of us is & what part of town we live in. All these stupid assholes who are deliberately trying to restrict minority voting need to go the fuck to jail. Fucking disgusting pieces of shit. President Clinton–in your first days in office please send DOJ against these anti-American shitbags. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/10420 "2016-11-07T16:08:36Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Kurt EichenwaldVerified account > ‏@kurteichenwald > I was able 2 vote in 10 mins. The nurse’s aide who helped my mom took 3 hours. Guess what race each of us is & what part of town we live in. > > All these stupid assholes who are deliberately trying to restrict minority voting need to go the fuck to jail. Fucking disgusting pieces of shit. > > President Clinton–in your first days in office please send DOJ against these anti-American shitbags. There definitely needs to be something done about this. There need to be consequences for this kind of behavior. Maybe if a few did go to jail it would stop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=520) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943.md?page=522)