# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 555
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11081 "2020-04-22T12:12:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [This article](https://newrepublic.com/article/156861/republican-voter-suppression-tactics-trump-2020) is a must-read. > > It mentions malicious anti-voter tactics by the GOP dating back to the 1970’s; tactics were so egregious that the RNC was forced to submit to a consent decree in 1982. (John Roberts was one of the young Republicans planning ways to harass D voters.) > > For example, Republicans entrenched themselves in precinct polling stations as ‘monitors’ and > _ **That 1982 consent decree was allowed to expire by a federal judge in 2018.** _ The GOP is now free to resume voter intimidation, etc. They’re already trying to use “monitors” again but who needs monitors when you can just take away the voting machines and make poor voters drive an hour to the nearest polling station? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11082 "2020-04-22T20:51:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Damn Wisconsin! > [Milwaukee Documents Seven Coronavirus Cases Linked to In-Person Voting](https://theintercept.com/2020/04/20/milwaukee-coronavirus-voting-election/) > These voters are heroes. Some aren’t even voters – they are the poll workers who got sick. (And if it’s like here in Minnesota, most of the poll ‘workers’ are actually volunteers, usually elderly (vulnerable)! ---
**Author:** ![Ispolkom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@Ispolkom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ispolkom)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11083 "2020-04-23T00:24:20Z")
> [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#): > > Some aren’t even voters – they are the poll workers who got sick. (And if it’s like here in Minnesota, most of the poll ‘workers’ are actually volunteers, usually elderly (vulnerable)! While I’d be literally the last person to dispute the honor, patriotism, and good looks of Minnesota election judges, most of us are paid a pittance. I think that of 8 or 9 workers in my precinct in the March primary, only one refused his pay. Line judges make $10 an hour in Ramsey County, I think, and the highest paid worker is the head election judge, who makes $14 an hour. On primary day I noticed that Arby’s had a sign saying that was what their employees started at. I’m not a young man, and might be considered especially at risk, but when I got the e-mail asking if I would work the August primary and the November general election, I responded, “Hell, yes.” It isn’t often that a man my age gets offered a chance to maybe risk his life for his country. Not that I’m looking forward to spending 16 hours in a mask, and whatever PPE they provide. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11084 "2020-05-25T16:31:12Z")
A federal judge from Florida’s Northern District [has ruled](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-judge-guts-florida-law-requiring-felons-to-pay-fines-before-they-can-vote/2020/05/24/a7f553ba-9c3a-11ea-a2b3-5c3f2d1586df_story.html) that the state legislature’s efforts prevent the restoration of voting rights to ex-felons who still owe fines and fees is unconstitutional. > [@](#): > > The law, critics said, had made it virtually impossible for most felons to register, either because of an inability to pay or because the state offered no way for them to know what they owed or whether they had already paid. > > U.S. District Judge Robert L. Hinkle agreed, likening the restrictive legislation to a tax and concluding that the state had not created a system that would allow felons to identify their financial obligations. > > \ > > Hinkle did not find, however, that the law intentionally discriminated on the basis of race, as the plaintiffs had argued, because of the disproportionate number of African Americans among the state’s population of felons. > > Hinkle’s order requires the state to tell felons whether they are eligible to vote and what they owe. It also requires the state to allow any felon to register if they are not given an answer within 21 days. No one will face perjury charges for registering and voting through this process, he ordered. If you’re interested in reading the full 125-page order, you can download the PDF [here](https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flnd.106435/gov.uscourts.flnd.106435.420.0_1.pdf). This will absolutely get appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11085 "2020-05-25T17:06:24Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > A federal judge from Florida’s Northern District [has ruled](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-judge-guts-florida-law-requiring-felons-to-pay-fines-before-they-can-vote/2020/05/24/a7f553ba-9c3a-11ea-a2b3-5c3f2d1586df_story.html) that the state legislature’s efforts prevent the restoration of voting rights to ex-felons who still owe fines and fees is unconstitutional. > > If you’re interested in reading the full 125-page order, you can download the PDF [here](https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flnd.106435/gov.uscourts.flnd.106435.420.0_1.pdf). This will absolutely get appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Of all the nasty tricks the Republican fuckers have played, I think this one ticks me off the most. The referendum restoring felons’ rights to vote passed with overwhelming and bi-partisan support. The ensuing legislation, rightfully under attack, was passed for one shitty reason only. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11086 "2020-05-26T11:30:12Z")
Some of my RW relations have been circulating articles about the “11,000 illegal voters” found in Pennsylvania. Except that 1) [the actual number isn’t anywhere near 11,000](https://apnews.com/ed51b03c1b0e48ffbd8567b0202569c1) and 2) not only would this not have been prevented by voter ID, the problem was literally caused by the process of obtaining a driver’s license (the process was amended in 2017 to prevent further recurrence). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11087 "2020-05-27T14:04:56Z")
It should not be surprising but it seems the effort to disenfranchise voters is a very, very well funded conspiracy. - [Revealed: conservative group fighting to restrict voting tied to powerful dark money network](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/27/honest-elections-project-conservative-voting-restrictions) From that link: > [@](#): > > A powerful new conservative organization fighting to restrict voting in the 2020 presidential election is really just a rebranded group that is part of a dark money network already helping Donald Trump’s unprecedented effort to remake the US federal judiciary, the Guardian and OpenSecrets reveal. > > The organization, which calls itself the Honest Elections Project, seemed to emerge out of nowhere a few months ago and started stoking fears about voter fraud. Backed by a dark money group funded by rightwing stalwarts like the Koch brothers and Betsy DeVos’ family, the Honest Elections Project is part of the network that pushed the US supreme court picks Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, and is quickly becoming a juggernaut in the escalating fight over voting rights. > > The project announced it was spending $250,000 in advertisements in April, warning against voting by mail and accusing Democrats of cheating. It facilitated letters to election officials in Colorado, Florida and Michigan, using misleading data to accuse jurisdictions of having bloated voter rolls and threatening legal action. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11088 "2020-05-27T14:44:00Z")
This shows in truth we are finished as a free nation. Trump is a symptom not a cause. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11089 "2020-05-28T02:13:09Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It should not be surprising but it seems the effort to disenfranchise voters is a very, very well funded conspiracy. > > - [Revealed: conservative group fighting to restrict voting tied to powerful dark money network](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/27/honest-elections-project-conservative-voting-restrictions) > > From that link: Wait until the DoJ amplifies this message with threats of federal prosecution for voter fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11090 "2020-05-28T10:32:23Z")
Remember when some Republicans demonstrated how easy it was to commit voting fraud by committing voting fraud? Well, now they’re showing us how easy it is to tamper with postal votes [by tampering with postal votes](https://time.com/5843088/west-virginia-mail-carrier-fraud-absentee-ballots/) (or rather requests for postal votes). > [@](#): > > A West Virginia postal carrier has been charged with attempted election fraud after eight mail-in requests for absentee voter ballots had their party affiliations altered, including five from Democrat to Republican, federal prosecutors said Tuesday. > [@](#): > > On the other three requests, the voters’ party was not changed. However, in addition to the “Republican” box originally checked in blue ink, the word “Republican” was later circled in black ink, the affidavit said. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11091 "2020-05-28T10:49:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Remember when some Republicans demonstrated how easy it was to commit voting fraud by committing voting fraud? Well, now they’re showing us how easy it is to tamper with postal votes [by tampering with postal votes](https://time.com/5843088/west-virginia-mail-carrier-fraud-absentee-ballots/) (or rather requests for postal votes). Obviously a false flag operation by a disgruntled USPS employee upset that Trump is not funding his retirement. Possibly directed by the Postmaster General himself, depending on if that person has ever said a bad thing about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/11092 "2024-03-29T02:28:26Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Black woman casts illegal ballot (in what could be considered a simple mistake), gets 5 years in jail. > > Brown woman casts 2 illegal ballots (in what could be considered a simple mistake), gets 8 years in jail. Crystal Mason has been acquitted by an appeals court. That won’t fix the horror she has lived under due to this Texas racist horseshit, but hopefully she’ll get the support she needs to recover her life. Who would certainly throw money into a go fund me if she had one. > **[Crystal Mason: Texas woman sentenced to five years over voting error acquitted](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/28/crystal-mason-texas-woman-acquitted)** > > Appeals court rules Mason, now 49, did not know she was ineligible when she voted in 2016 and throws out conviction ---
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