# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1)

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**Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/3055 "2012-11-15T18:27:18Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Bricker, How many cases of in-person voter fraud (of the kind that could be prevented by ID) would you expect in a state the size of Wisconsin?
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> Would you expect 75 - 100 cases of in-person fraud in a state of that size?  
> 50-74?  
> 25-49?  
> 1-24?  
> 0?  
> What do you base this estimate on? Cite?
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> If there are (say) 26 cases of in-person fraud in a state of this size, would 13 be Democrat and 13 Republican? Or all Democrat? What do you base this estimate on? Cite?

The notional figure cited from a study quoted earlier in this thread, which IIRC was offered up by Hentor, was 0.0004% fraud.

In a state the size of Wisconsin, with about 5.7 million people, I’d expect to see about 23 fraudulent votes. In your range, then, over 49 would surprise me. I have no idea how they might break out along party lines.

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> Bonus Question: Would you agree with Charlie Wright, the head of Maine’s Republican Party, that if there are towns where “nobody in town knows anyone who’s black.”, if you see black people at the polls, it is good evidence of voter fraud?

I’d say if there’s a small town, where everyone legitimately knows everyone else, then anyone you see at the polls that you don’t recognize, is, almost by definition, at least worthy of a second look, no matter their color.

I have no idea what size of town Wright was talking about and no way to judge how valid his perception of knowing everyone in town is. There certainly exist towns in which that perception would be valid.

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