# I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943 "2012-06-12T19:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 643
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943/643 "2012-06-27T15:05:24Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Secondly, one party was for isolationism during that era. It wasn’t the one associated with liberaliam, that’s for sure. You have (accidentally, I’m sure) made a valid point here. The man that made the decision to drop the bombs was a Democrat, and a a damn fine president. That was back whenb Democrats meant something good. Democratic Senator Zell Miller said it best: > [@](#): > > What has happened to the party I’ve spent my life working in? > > I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny. > > It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city. > > Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today. > > Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today’s Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator. > > And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators. > > Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers. > > Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers. > > Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers. > > Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don’t just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home. > > For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. > > It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. > > It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag. > > No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn’t believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home. > > But don’t waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution. > > They don’t believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy. > > It is not their patriotism - it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter’s pacifism would lead to peace. > > They were wrong. > > They claimed Reagan’s defense buildup would lead to war. > > They were wrong. Zell Miller’s points were excellent ones. He didn’t leave his party. his party left him. The Democrats turned into weak sisters, infected with useless ideas and a commitment to them irrespective of any possibility of actual success. I have a thread going now in GD about “green grocer liberalism,” and folks are saying, without a hint of shame, that “at least liberals are willing to do something, even if it doesn’t work.” That’s it, in a liberal nutshell. What actually works is irrelevant, as long as we feel good about our efforts. I’ve noticed, by the way, the subtle attempt to rebrand yourselves as _progressive_. You know the public is disenchanted with do nothing, tax-and-spend liberals. Typical liberals: you get so used to language shaping meaning that you forget there’s any actual underlying meaning. Alarmed at the reception “liberal” gets, you’re now reviving that old warhorse “progressive.” And it still doesn’t help! Despite having told the voters that you regard them as simpletons, foolish sheep that must be led to the correct decisions, lest their unfortunate ovine nature lead them astray, despite assuring them that you have their best little sheepy interests at heart, they continue to favor Voter ID. They continue to want elections wherein only legal voters vote! This is what burns you, infuriates you, scalds you to your very core: that the fucking idiots voters won’t listen to you, liberal progressives with their best interests at heart. You rail at me, call me names, but that’s only misdirected anger. You can’t stand seeing the sheep have a mind of their own, can you? C’mon. Tell the truth, just once. You’ll feel better for it, I promise. You want those illegal votes. You NEED those illegal votes, And you can’t stand that the people favor taking them away from you. Admit it. Catharsis brings relief. You can do it. Do it for Zell, baby. Do it for Zell. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-id-demanding-gop-vote-suppressors-part-1/624943)._