# I pit the idiots who say the Nazis were "Socialists". **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568 "2014-08-15T01:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/221 "2018-03-20T19:35:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Look, Trumplicker, Chavez is dead and Bill hasn’t been president for 18 years now. I know it’s been terribly upsetting to you to have black people living in the white house for 8 years, but they’ve moved out now. And yes, we know you think Orange is the new White, despite the fact that it stains the sheets and eats hamburgers in bed. We get that you’re so excited you can hardly contain your racism. But really, do try. And get some vaseline for those chapped lips. Get a large jar while you’re at it. So it won’t hurt quite so much the next time you bend over to get dry humped by [del]Fucking Moron[/del] Dear Orange Leader. Trumplicker? This isn’t pre-school, and this is not the playground. Show a little sophistication and leave the juvenile quips to the kiddies. I know it’s difficult, but I believe in you. ‘contain your racism’ Now you’re throwing out random accusations without so much as a slight concern for truth. Tisk-tisk. You just randomly called someone racist. Now say ‘islamophobe’, ‘misogynist’, ‘homophobe’, or ‘transphobe’. ‘Get a large jar…’ My goodness you are corny. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/222 "2018-03-20T19:36:15Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > I never lied about Obama and Romney, actually. He said exactly what I said he did. > > ‘one leftist, or a very few’ It’s not one leftist, nor is it a few leftists. He wouldn’t have been elected had their just been a few of them, fool. You said that they were imaginary. Now you’re backpedaling. > > ‘lying about me’ Never did. Post #181 was a lie, troll. Or maybe you’re just stupid, throwing around inaccuracies with abandon. Like assuming that any supporter of Corbyn necessarily agrees with a specific thing he said about Chavez one time. Stupid troll, lying troll, apologies if I called you the wrong one. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/223 "2018-03-20T19:37:56Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > Trumplicker? This isn’t pre-school, and this is not the playground. Show a little sophistication and leave the juvenile quips to the kiddies. I know it’s difficult, but I believe in you. > > ‘contain your racism’ Now you’re throwing out random accusations without so much as a slight concern for truth. Tisk-tisk. > > You just randomly called someone racist. Now say ‘islamophobe’, ‘misogynist’, ‘homophobe’, or ‘transphobe’. > > ‘Get a large jar…’ My goodness you are corny. Awww, did I hit a nerve? Good. Now, FUCK OFF. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/224 "2018-03-20T19:39:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, it’s your trolling. If you were a long time participant disagreeing in a friendly way, then no problem. We have lots of friendly and reasonable disagreements on this here board. But if you fling around silly accusations and insults (i.e. trolling) then you’ll probably get called a troll. ‘trolling’ What you call ‘trolling’, intelligent people call truth-telling. That’s the go-to non-argument for every intellectual light-weight when they’re backed into a corner. It’s not my problem that the facts aren’t on your side. ‘silly accusations and insults’ I haven’t made an silly accusations, and it’s your side doing most of the insulting. But you can’t help it if everything you say is an insult to my intelligence. You said that left-wing Chavez supporters are imaginary. That’s not only silly; it’s f’ing stupid. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/225 "2018-03-20T19:39:59Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > You’re a bit of a simpleton. You don’t have to fawn over the sister of a murderous despot to show appreciation for the possible thawing of relations. That’s just absurd. ‘Are you saying that…’ Mike Pence made a conscious effort to ignore her, in contrast to the American media’s approach of kissing her feet ‘And she’s kinda attractive…’ This shows where your mind is at. Actually, any thawing is grounds for appreciation, which can be a bit extravagant in the press. And let’s be clear that it is the press (mostly in South Korea), not your “American leftists,” that was doing the “fawning,” in part because she’s pretty. Pretty sells papers. And yeah, Pence was a Class A jerk, rather than a diplomat: > [@](#): > > But Mr. Pence drew the greatest reaction for where he did not appear: most pointedly, at a dinner Mr. Moon hosted before the opening ceremony. That meant that he avoided spending much time with the North Korean delegation, including Kim Yong-nam, the country’s ceremonial head of state. > > And while the unified Korean Olympic team received a standing ovation as they marched into the stadium Friday night, Mr. Pence remained seated, which critics said was disrespectful of the athletes and his host, Mr. Moon. > > Mr. Pence is playing “right into North Korea’s hands by making it look like the U.S. is straying from its ally and actively undermining efforts for inter-Korean relations,” said Mintaro Oba, a former diplomat at the State Department specializing in the Koreas, who now works as a speechwriter in Washington. > > Ms. Kim, on the other hand, “is a very effective tip of the spear for the North Korean charm offensive,” Mr. Oba said. > > Analysts of Korean affairs said that Mr. Pence had missed an opportunity. > > “I think it would have been really helpful to the conversation of denuclearization for the Pences to have appreciated the effort put into bringing team unified Korea into the stadium,” said Alexis Dudden, a professor of history at the University of Connecticut. “And it wouldn’t have lessened the American position.” > > She added, “The fact that he and Mrs. Pence didn’t stand when the unified team came in was a new low in a bullying type of American diplomacy.” > **[Kim Jong-un’s Sister Turns On the Charm, Taking Pence’s Spotlight (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/11/world/asia/kim-yo-jong-mike-pence-olympics.html)** > > Flashing smiles and without speaking in public, Kim Yo-jong outflanked Vice President Mike Pence in diplomatic image-making at the Winter Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/226 "2018-03-20T19:42:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Post #181 was a lie, troll. Or maybe you’re just stupid, throwing around inaccuracies with abandon. Like assuming that any supporter of Corbyn necessarily agrees with a specific thing he said about Chavez one time. Stupid troll, lying troll, apologies if I called you the wrong one. Except it’s not. Obama ignored Russia as a geopolitical foe and scoffed at the idea that they were a concern, hence ‘The 1980’s called…’. ‘assuming that any supporter of…’ That’s a straw-man argument. You went from ‘Chavez loving leftists are imaginary’ to ‘well, uh, ummm, it’s just Corbyn and maybe a few others’. Make up your mind. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/227 "2018-03-20T19:45:36Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > Except it’s not. Obama ignored Russia as a geopolitical foe and scoffed at the idea that they were a concern, hence ‘The 1980’s called…’. > > ‘assuming that any supporter of…’ That’s a straw-man argument. You went from ‘Chavez loving leftists are imaginary’ to ‘well, uh, ummm, it’s just Corbyn and maybe a few others’. Make up your mind. Still lying about Obama and me, including making up false quotes, huh? You go on trolling, troll. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/228 "2018-03-20T19:48:09Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Actually, any thawing is grounds for appreciation, which can be a bit extravagant in the press. And let’s be clear that it is the press (mostly in South Korea), not your “American leftists,” that was doing the “fawning,” in part because she’s pretty. Pretty sells papers. And yeah, Pence was a Class A jerk, rather than a diplomat: > [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/11/world/asia/kim-yo-jong-mike-pence-olympics.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/11/world/asia/kim-yo-jong-mike-pence-olympics.html) Reading comprehension is fundamental. I didn’t argue against the idea that it was grounds for appreciation. I called it absurd to think that it would warrant the sort of fawning reaction that the media exhibited. And no, it wasn’t just happening ‘mostly in South Korea’. It was your favorite news network/s: “Kim Jong Un’s sister is stealing the show at the Winter Olympics” - CNN "If diplomatic dance were an event at the Winter Olympics, Kim Jong Un’s younger sister would be favored to win gold.” - CNN “This is so satisfying to watch.” - NBC (In response to the North Korean cheerleader routine) And your favorite online source for false facts: “Kim Jong-un’s Sister Turns On the Charm, Taking Pence’s Spotlight” - New York Times ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/229 "2018-03-20T19:50:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Still lying about Obama and me, including making up false quotes, huh? You go on trolling, troll. Except I never lied about either one. “I stand with you against all these terrible fantasy-liberals. The vast majority of the real world liberals that I know don’t honor or praise Hugo Chavez or other dictators in any way, of course, but I stand with you against all these fantasy imaginary folks who are celebrating terrible things and terrible people!” You called them imaginary, then contradicted yourself in the very next line. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/230 "2018-03-20T19:50:37Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > ‘Or something.’ \<– That was prime real estate for an actual argument. Until you provide an argument of substance, “or something” is much more than you are worth. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/231 "2018-03-20T19:53:13Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And yeah, Pence was a Class A jerk, rather than a diplomat: You’re getting comical. The North Korean regime murdered and starved millions of people in just a four year span. The fact that the Vice President wouldn’t acknowledge a stooge for a murderous administration doesn’t make him a ‘jerk’. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/232 "2018-03-20T19:56:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Until you provide an argument of substance, “or something” is much more than you are worth. Already did that pages ago. Keep up. … Capitalism: ‘an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.’ ‘Trade unions had looked after the rights of the working class. The German Labour Front now did this.’ ^Not capitalism ‘An individual had no choice about a job placement as anyone labelled ‘work shy’ was sent to prison.’ ^Not capitalism ‘Their conditions of work and pay were controlled and determined by the German Labour Front and the GLF represented the workers when disputes arose between management and workers.’ ^Not capitalism … And by the way: Don’t pretend like you have anything substantive to offer as a counter-argument. It’s just not that convincing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/233 "2018-03-20T19:56:30Z")
In my day, trolls didn’t make it so dang easy to pick them apart! They didn’t make up quotes about others, lie about easily verifiable facts… Trolls went to real effort! Kids these days… ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/234 "2018-03-20T20:00:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > In my day, trolls didn’t make it so dang easy to pick them apart! They didn’t make up quotes about others, lie about easily verifiable facts… Trolls went to real effort! Kids these days… ‘make up quotes about others’ If I actually intended for people to think that was legitimately your quote, I probably would’ve left out the ‘uhhs’ and ‘umms’. Don’t be so obtuse (if you can help it). I just quoted you directly. You called left-wing Chavez supporters imaginary. Why are you still lying about it? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/235 "2018-03-20T20:03:30Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Awww, did I hit a nerve? Good. Now, FUCK OFF. Your perception of reality is way off, but we already knew that. You just went on a rant about jars of vaseline and licking stuff. I’d say someone’s nerve has definitely been touched. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/236 "2018-03-20T20:07:02Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > Four years later and I wake up to find leftists fawning over the sister of the ultra-authoritarian North Korean leader. Apparently you’re still asleep and in the middle of a dream. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/237 "2018-03-20T20:07:26Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > What you call ‘trolling’, intelligent people call truth-telling. How would you know? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/238 "2018-03-20T20:07:46Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > \*\*Funny, but all of posts Eminent has made have been in this thread, today. \*\*The ‘style’ of posting reminds me of someone but I can’t quite place it… Ya don’t say? This is the first and only thread I responded to back when I created this account in 2014. I haven’t been back to this site until today. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/239 "2018-03-20T20:08:27Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > I haven’t been back to this site until today. Shame you broke your streak. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/240 "2018-03-20T20:08:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Apparently you’re still asleep and in the middle of a dream. Trust me, I wish it were a dream. Unfortunately, you all are actually disgusting enough to celebrate someone like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568.md?page=13)