# I pit the idiots who say the Nazis were "Socialists". **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568 "2014-08-15T01:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/161 "2018-03-20T18:38:15Z")
What about the Republican President fawning over Putin? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/162 "2018-03-20T18:38:35Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > But okay…Which socialist leader would you prefer, if not Hugo? I think we can pretty much rule out the entirety of Africa, Latin America, and much of Asia. You all have done a bang up job destroying those places. Who’s the most celebrated socialist figure in Europe these days? I don’t know and quite honestly, who gives a rat’s ass? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/163 "2018-03-20T18:39:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What about the Republican President fawning over Putin? The 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/164 "2018-03-20T18:39:21Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > [https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-hatred-of-trump-brings-disgraceful-fawning-over-kim-jong-uns-sister-at-winter-olympics/](https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-hatred-of-trump-brings-disgraceful-fawning-over-kim-jong-uns-sister-at-winter-olympics/) > > Are you denying this happened? Are you claiming that’s an unbiased news story? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/165 "2018-03-20T18:39:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What about the Republican President fawning over Putin? Hair Hitler be puttin’ on the Ritz. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/166 "2018-03-20T18:40:23Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > The 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back. No, really-who’s sock are you? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/167 "2018-03-20T18:40:58Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > North Koreans have very few if any democratic principles/policies in place. Nazi Germany had a number of socialist principles/policies in place. At least come up with a remotely sensible argument. The US has a number of socialist principles and policies in place. What was your point again? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/168 "2018-03-20T18:40:59Z")
4 years later, maybe not a coma. Could have been locked up, too. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/169 "2018-03-20T18:41:00Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I don’t know and quite honestly, who gives a rat’s ass? You ignored the wife beating and cisgender question. Yikes. I do, silly. That’s why I asked the question. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/170 "2018-03-20T18:42:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No, really-who’s sock are you? Crying ‘sock’ is not an argument. That’s what Barack Obama told Mitt Romney when he said that Russia was our greatest geopolitical threat. A lot’s changed, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/171 "2018-03-20T18:43:39Z")
> [@naita](#): > > The US has a number of socialist principles and policies in place. What was your point again? The left loves to claim a lot of policies as socialist policies, definitely. ‘Trade unions had looked after the rights of the working class. The German Labour Front now did this. However, Hitler was still fearful of large group of unemployed men existing in the fledgling Nazi state. In January 1933, he inherited an unemployment rate of 26.3%. This had the potential for long-term trouble. Therefore, job creation schemes were introduced. An individual had no choice about a job placement as anyone labelled ‘work shy’ was sent to prison.’ … ‘A significant element of the Nazi labour program was preparing young Germans for their future roles. German children received plenty of state direction or advice about their future education, careers and gender roles. The Nazis went as far as offering vocational blueprints to the German people. In the propaganda poster Der Weg des Gleichgeschalteten Burger, or ‘The Way of the Coordinated Citizen’ (click here) the regime mapped out its preferred path for both males and females – from birth to adulthood. The options offered were clear and simple: school and Nazi youth groups for children; motherhood and home duties for women; party membership, industrial work or military service for men. This model contained very little scope for individual choice. Instead, individuals were steered in directions that would benefit the German economy and the Nazi state. […] DAF membership was compulsory for employment in most occupations.’ Whatever socialist policies we do have, they certainly aren’t like that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/172 "2018-03-20T18:43:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > 4 years later, maybe not a coma. Could have been locked up, too. I considered that, or maybe an involuntary treatment center. ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/173 "2018-03-20T18:44:41Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > 4 years later, maybe not a coma. Could have been locked up, too. No, I’m not a Democrat voter. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/174 "2018-03-20T18:44:44Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > The left loves to claim a lot of policies as socialist policies, definitely. > > ‘Trade unions had looked after the rights of the working class. The German Labour Front now did this. However, Hitler was still fearful of large group of unemployed men existing in the fledgling Nazi state. In January 1933, he inherited an unemployment rate of 26.3%. This had the potential for long-term trouble. Therefore, job creation schemes were introduced. An individual had no choice about a job placement as anyone labelled ‘work shy’ was sent to prison.’ > > … > > ‘A significant element of the Nazi labour program was preparing young Germans for their future roles. German children received plenty of state direction or advice about their future education, careers and gender roles. The Nazis went as far as offering vocational blueprints to the German people. In the propaganda poster Der Weg des Gleichgeschalteten Burger, or ‘The Way of the Coordinated Citizen’ (click here) the regime mapped out its preferred path for both males and females – from birth to adulthood. The options offered were clear and simple: school and Nazi youth groups for children; motherhood and home duties for women; party membership, industrial work or military service for men. This model contained very little scope for individual choice. Instead, individuals were steered in directions that would benefit the German economy and the Nazi state. […] DAF membership was compulsory for employment in most occupations.’ > > Whatever socialist policies we do have, they certainly aren’t like that. Who are you quoting? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/175 "2018-03-20T18:46:35Z")
I stand with you against all these terrible fantasy-liberals. The vast majority of the real world liberals that I know don’t honor or praise Hugo Chavez or other dictators in any way, of course, but I stand with you against all these fantasy imaginary folks who are celebrating terrible things and terrible people! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/176 "2018-03-20T18:48:01Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > No, I’m not a Democrat voter. You voted for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/177 "2018-03-20T18:48:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Who are you quoting? ‘J. Llewellyn et al, “Work in Nazi Germany”, Alpha History, accessed [today’s date], [Work in Nazi Germany](http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/work-in-nazi-germany/.)’ If there are any inaccuracies, point them out. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/178 "2018-03-20T18:50:28Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > Crying ‘sock’ is not an argument. That’s what Barack Obama told Mitt Romney when he said that Russia was our greatest geopolitical threat. A lot’s changed, huh? Are you suggesting that Russia is not a threat to the US? ---
**Author:** ![Eminent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Eminent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eminent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/179 "2018-03-20T18:50:54Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You voted for Trump? Didn’t vote for either. Embarrassing loss, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568/180 "2018-03-20T18:51:29Z")
> [@Eminent](#): > > ‘J. Llewellyn et al, “Work in Nazi Germany”, Alpha History, accessed [today’s date], [Work in Nazi Germany](http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/work-in-nazi-germany/.)’ > > If there are any inaccuracies, point them out. Doesn’t that source use the same logic trump did when he suggested the death penalty for drug dealers, that is, the better good of the state? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idiots-who-say-the-nazis-were-socialists/695568.md?page=10)