# I pit the idolization of Luigi Mangione **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2025, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914 "2025-02-28T10:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/1 "2025-02-28T10:37:33Z")
I know it’s relatively old news, but I get tired of people online calling him a hero or sneering at the McDonalds worker who turned him in for a reward. He’s not a hero. He’s a murderer whose actions ultimately have had no effect and belongs in prison. Stop selling his merchandise and licking his taint on social media. Maybe I should also spend less time of Reddit. That might be a good idea too. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/2 "2025-02-28T10:42:49Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He’s not a hero. Hard disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/3 "2025-02-28T10:47:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Hard disagree. So murder is an acceptable response to society’s problems? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/4 "2025-02-28T10:48:23Z")
When has it ever not been so? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/5 "2025-02-28T10:56:23Z")
I see that you were never taught not to answer a question with a question. By your logic, if I decide that Senator Shneerson is a corrupt individual who has voted for and introduced policies that ruined my life, it’s fine by you if I break into his or her house and gut them like a fish? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/6 "2025-02-28T10:59:37Z")
Senator Shneerson will be up for reelection in a few years, which means that there’s a legal way to get rid of him. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/7 "2025-02-28T11:08:03Z")
True. I’d forgotten how easily Mitch McConnell was ejected from his seat. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/8 "2025-02-28T11:11:06Z")
If the people have chosen, the people have chosen. Nothing you can do about it. The people don’t choose insurance CEOs. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/9 "2025-02-28T11:13:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He’s a murderer whose actions ultimately have had no effect Wrong. Health insurance companies have done away with a few of their more onerous practices. Evil CEOs realize they are not nearly as safe as they had thought. They have upgraded their personal security. I often wonder why more people who are doomed anyway don’t choose to go out with a bang or several. I expect that in at least some cases it has to do with the grief it would bring to friends and family. But I’m sure there are people out there without friends and family. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/10 "2025-02-28T11:28:26Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > often wonder why more people who are doomed anyway don’t choose to go out with a bang or several. ….because they also don’t want to be remembered as murderers? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/11 "2025-02-28T11:38:18Z")
Do you have any ideas as to why this doesn’t deter the hundreds of thousands of actual murderers worldwide? ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/12 "2025-02-28T11:45:33Z")
Avoiding for the moment the question of whether Mangione is a hero, and also avoiding the question of whether a health insurance CEO is a legitimate villain, the United States has overproduced elites. The result is runaway income and wealth inequality to the point where the billionaire class now literally controls our political system in ways that are hard to ignore. Today, it’s Luigi Mangione, but if things continue on their current trajectory, we might be looking at a Robespierre moment. I’m not arguing or advocating for that outcome, but I think it’s just inevitable if inequality becomes outright oppression. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/13 "2025-02-28T11:49:02Z")
Luigi’s crossed ankles thirst trap photo is his _Basic Instinct_ moment. ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/14 "2025-02-28T11:50:29Z")
There are consequences for their families and people who are close to them. And as was said earlier, maybe they care about their legacy, too. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/15 "2025-02-28T11:52:07Z")
And I fully agree with and understand that more Luigis are likely or even inevitable. I just don’t think those actions are laudable. ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/16 "2025-02-28T11:58:32Z")
Understood and don’t necessarily disagree. But if the economic and political elite create gross inequality to that point that it enables rampant corruption and injustice, there comes a point at which whether something is laudable or not becomes less and less important in the eyes of people who are suffering. I think Mangione is probably aptly described as a privileged malcontent, but he’s definitely tapped into a lot of common anger and resentment toward our economic and political system and the elites who control it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/17 "2025-02-28T12:28:01Z")
> [@natureboy](#): > > I think Mangione is probably aptly described as a privileged malcontent, As was Robespierre. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/18 "2025-02-28T12:34:25Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He’s not a hero. He’s a murderer whose actions ultimately have had no effect and belongs in prison. Stop selling his merchandise and licking his taint on social media. Maybe I should also spend less time of Reddit. That might be a good idea too. Personally, I don’t think what the Left has done with Luigi is all that different than what the Right did to Kyle Rittenhouse. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/19 "2025-02-28T13:39:18Z")
7 posts were split to a new topic: [Troll’s Posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/basados-posts/1014925) ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914/22 "2025-02-28T13:09:46Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > I often wonder why more people who are doomed anyway don’t choose to go out with a bang or several. This. It has puzzled me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-idolization-of-luigi-mangione/1014914.md?page=2)