# I pit the jerks who DOSed Godaddy, and Godaddy for not protecting themselves better. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331 "2012-09-10T21:04:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/1 "2012-09-10T21:04:04Z")
[http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/10/every-godaddy-registered-site-temporarily-offline](http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/10/every-godaddy-registered-site-temporarily-offline) Suddenly today I was getting calls about our domain being inaccessible. I was going crazy trying to figure out why some nameservers recognized our domain while others didn’t. Then I saw the article linked above. Some asshole attacked our registrar, Godaddy. This screws up our email and some online apps that our employees use, and it’s out of my hands. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/2 "2012-09-10T21:07:45Z")
I’d forgive them, if they’d send Danica Patrick to my place wearing only a leather catsuit. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/3 "2012-09-10T21:20:11Z")
Shoot, I have several domains registered with them, one of those is active. That is not good. Luckily my main domains are registered elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/4 "2012-09-10T21:22:11Z")
Check those others. Godaddy has lots of affiliate registrars. You may have domains on Godaddy’s nameservers and not realize it. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/5 "2012-09-10T21:27:12Z")
I’m conflicted. On one hand, DDOSers suck. On the other hand, the world would be much better off if GoDaddy was destroyed. Can’t they both lose somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/6 "2012-09-10T21:28:52Z")
Bring back the death penalty for hackers. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/7 "2012-09-11T04:00:25Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > On the other hand, the world would be much better off if GoDaddy was destroyed. What’s wrong with Godaddy? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/8 "2012-09-11T04:05:29Z")
Gee, and I just got done threatening Network Solutions that if they don’t straighten up and fly right, I’d go to GoDaddy. Guess I’d better rethink that threat… ---
**Author:** ![Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phedre_no_Delaunay)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/9 "2012-09-11T04:07:15Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What’s wrong with Godaddy? They are spammers. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/10 "2012-09-11T04:30:02Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What’s wrong with Godaddy? Well, for one thing (and possibly the prompt for this attack), they supported SOPA, up until the point when they realized that they were pretty much the only people on the internet that did, then they reluctantly changed their official position to say they opposed it. So it’s not completely unreasonable to say that people still hosting their sites on GoDaddy chose to keep their sites on a provider that advocated that sits should be able to be taken down at any time with only the flimsiest of justifications, and that’s what they got. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/11 "2012-09-11T04:59:18Z")
I pit the jerks who host the DNS records for important sites on GoDaddy without a backup DNS. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/12 "2012-09-11T08:24:08Z")
[Here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Daddy#Controversies) are the other things. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/13 "2012-09-11T18:27:48Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > Well, for one thing (and possibly the prompt for this attack), they supported SOPA, up until the point when they realized that they were pretty much the only people on the internet that did, then they reluctantly changed their official position to say they opposed it. > > So it’s not completely unreasonable to say that people still hosting their sites on GoDaddy chose to keep their sites on a provider that advocated that sits should be able to be taken down at any time with only the flimsiest of justifications, and that’s what they got. 😃 And that’s the purported reason why GoDaddy was attacked. I honestly think that shutting down other sites was a happy coincidence, something that gave the DDOS more publicity. What pisses me off is that there weren’t any workarounds. My Windows DNS cache didn’t help. My DNS server’s cache didn’t help. Using a whois, which did find the site, didn’t help, as I have no way of forcing Windows to use the IP but still go to the correct site–it instead redirected me to another site. And IPv6 is making this the norm, where in IPv4 it was just a workaround for the dearth of IP addresses. DNS, such a vital part of the Internet, should not have a fucking single point of failure ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/14 "2012-09-11T18:31:12Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > So it’s not completely unreasonable to say that people still hosting their sites on GoDaddy chose to keep their sites on a provider that advocated that sits should be able to be taken down at any time with only the flimsiest of justifications, and that’s what they got. 😃 That’s funny, is it? Now expressing a position on legislation makes you fair game for a cyber-attack? I’ll note that supporting Sopa does not amount to saying that any website should be vulnerable for takedown at any time. It facilitated a way for the legal system to interdict illegal activity. Now, whether you might support the specific mechanism provided for under Sopa, it seems to me that it’s perfectly reasonable to give the government the means to interfere with people who are breaking the law, even if it’s on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/15 "2012-09-11T18:35:07Z")
Not sure if this is better, as for the reliability of a company, but GoDaddy is reporting now that it was no hacker, it was caused by corrupted router tables. [http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231180/GoDaddy\_blames\_outage\_on\_corrupted\_router\_tables?taxonomyId=82](http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231180/GoDaddy_blames_outage_on_corrupted_router_tables?taxonomyId=82) > [@](#): > > Corrupted router tables, not malicious protesters, were the culprits behind Monday’s widespread outage of GoDaddy’s Internet registrar and hosting services, the company reported. > > “The service outage was not caused by external influences,” wrote GoDaddy interim CEO Scott Wagner, in a short announcement issued Tuesday. “It was not a ‘hack’ and it was not a denial of service attack (DDoS).” > > Shortly after GoDaddy’s services stopped working Tuesday, Twitter user @AnonymousOwn3r, who claimed to be the “security leader of anonymous,” took responsibility for the outage in a video posted on YouTube. @AnonymousOwn3r later stated that the outage was his or her own doing and not part of the Anonymous collective. > > According to Wagner, a series of unspecified “internal network events” took place that corrupted the company’s router data tables. Network routers keep tables listing host addresses as well as all the intermediate hops that data packets must take to reach their destinations. Without this information on Internet routers, websites, email hosts and other domain-name-based Internet services may be unreachable. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/16 "2012-09-11T18:42:29Z")
So Anonymous falsely took credit for a hack that didn’t happen? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/17 "2012-09-11T18:44:05Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > …I have no way of forcing Windows to use the IP but still go to the correct site… Yes you do. The hosts file. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/18 "2012-09-11T18:49:34Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Not sure if this is better, as for the reliability of a company, but GoDaddy is reporting now that it was no hacker, it was caused by corrupted router tables. > > [http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231180/GoDaddy\_blames\_outage\_on\_corrupted\_router\_tables?taxonomyId=82](http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231180/GoDaddy_blames_outage_on_corrupted_router_tables?taxonomyId=82) That makes a lot more sense considering what I was seeing. Our website was or wasn’t accessible depending on who you were using for DNS. For example, it responded when using OpenDNS but not when using Google’s DNS servers. If Godaddy’s nameservers were down due to a DOS attack, it seems like they would be down regardless of who’s DNS you were using. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/19 "2012-09-11T19:01:13Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So Anonymous falsely took credit for a hack that didn’t happen? If that was the case it is very similar to other incidents of mayhem makers that take responsibility so as to gain more “street” credit. ‘Let’s just keep quiet about this, and maybe some terrorist group will claim credit.’ [http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/t/terrorist\_groups.asp](http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/t/terrorist_groups.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331/20 "2012-09-13T02:00:29Z")
One reason why I read _The New York Times_ everyday (and then save the copies for a month and then take then to the city recycling center at the end of the month): September 11, 2012, headline - **A Hacker Brings Down GoDaddy** September 12, 2012, headline - **GoDaddy Says Its Disruption Was Not Caused by a Hacker** I can just imagine the panic and argument in GoDaddy boardroom. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-jerks-who-dosed-godaddy-and-godaddy-for-not-protecting-themselves-better/634331.md?page=2)