# I Pit the K-E Diet for (Stupid) Brides **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595 "2012-04-22T15:06:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/82 "2012-04-24T14:57:17Z")
It would have had to be a pretty long-range shotgun wedding - you have to start alterations several months out on those things. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/83 "2012-04-24T15:02:18Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > It would have had to be a pretty long-range shotgun wedding - you have to start alterations several months out on those things. I had my wedding dress altered from a size 26 to a size 22 on two weeks’ notice (those are wedding-dress sizes, FTR). I did have to pay extra for the rush job, but the dress looked beautiful (and fit perfectly) when it was done. I should be clear that I don’t really have an issue with the wedding dress industry in general, with all its arcane sizing oddities and whatever. Some people really enjoy trying the dress on and specially ordering it and having it adjusted to fit, etc. It becomes part of the experience. I just think that feeding yourself through a nose tube in order to fit into your dress is stupid. Just have the thing altered to fit you instead. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/84 "2012-04-24T16:05:44Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Were you all in the treehouse, or just the judge? The three of us, plus his parents and sister, and my father. Sadly, the park was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, but it was a nice park. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/85 "2012-04-24T17:04:19Z")
Dammit, now I want a treehouse wedding! With no wedding dress! ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/86 "2012-04-24T17:14:11Z")
Go for it! Oh, and I wore Keds, too. Leather Keds, but Keds nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/87 "2012-04-24T17:23:22Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > You want a cite that very low-calorie-put-you-into-ketosis diets can cause death or other problems? OK… [http://www.apinchofhealth.com/resources/lowcarb/VLCD-Research.html](http://www.apinchofhealth.com/resources/lowcarb/VLCD-Research.html) > > If you want a cite that THIS EXACT diet has KILLED BRIDES, I can’t help you, but there’s nothing special about either being a bride or using a nasogastric tube that’s going to protect you from the dangers of a very low-calorie diet, which is all the K-E diet is. > > Or also, what **MsRobyn** says. What I asked for, after basically being told that this specific diet had left well documented stacks of dead brides with kidney stones in its wake was “how many women on this specific diet died or developed kidney stones?” So far no one has come up with a single person. I don’t doubt that sick people on feeding tubes can develop problems, but I am asking about physically healthy brides who do THIS diet under medical supervision for a short period of time. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/88 "2012-04-24T17:30:54Z")
You really need evidence that starving yourself for a week and a half can have negative physical consequences. OK, whatever. > **[Refeeding syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome)** > > Refeeding syndrome (RFS) is a metabolic disturbance which occurs as a result of reinstitution of nutrition in people who are starved, severely malnourished, or metabolically stressed because of severe illness. When too much food or liquid nutrition supplement is consumed during the initial four to seven days following a malnutrition event, the production of glycogen, fat and protein in cells may cause low serum concentrations of potassium, magnesium and phosphate. The electrolyte imbalance Any i... > [@Wikipedia](#): > > Any individual who has had negligible nutrient intake for 5 consecutive days is at risk of refeeding syndrome. Refeeding syndrome usually occurs within four days of starting to feed. Patients can develop fluid and electrolyte disorders, especially hypophosphatemia, along with neurologic, pulmonary, cardiac, neuromuscular, and hematologic complications. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/89 "2012-04-24T17:32:54Z")
Yeah yeah yeah… But will any of these things make me look fat? Hmmmm? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/90 "2012-04-24T18:52:22Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Yeah yeah yeah… > > But will any of these things make me look fat? Hmmmm? Well, retaining fluid from fluid and electrolyte disorders and pulmonary and cardiac malfunctions could. And then when you gain all the weight back again in a week after the wedding and ruin your metabolism so it’s very hard to get it off again will make you look heavier (actually, those things will actually make you BE heavier). ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/91 "2012-04-24T18:57:10Z")
I’d say you had been whoosed but fat doesn’t fly…maybe you felt a rumbling under your feet instead ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/92 "2012-04-24T18:58:09Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’d say you had been whoosed but fat doesn’t fly…maybe you felt a rumbling under your feet instead ? 🙂 Dammit, I should have put a smiley in there - I was riffing on _your_ joke. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/93 "2012-04-24T19:00:27Z")
Okay…I guess it was me that was rumbled 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/94 "2012-04-24T20:15:50Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Twenty pounds is just about the sweet spot of this. Because twenty pounds is the difference between “average” and thin. It’s the difference between “I let myself gain a few pounds” and “I’ve been disciplined about my weight.” This. Twenty pounds is not an insubstantial amount of weight. Gaining 20 pounds takes a woman of average height from the low-middle of the healthy range up to the edge of the “overweight” range. If you start out on the high end of average, 20 lbs is more than enough to take you from “slim” to " a little chunky." While crash dieting isn’t ever a great plan, losing 20lbs when you are 20lbs above your ideal weight is probably the best way to avoid having to lose 50 lbs one day. A healthy weight is actually pretty actively skinny, not just “not unusually obese.” A few pounds overweight is just a few pounds overweight, but it is also a few pounds overweight, as opposed to “not overweight”. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/95 "2012-04-24T20:42:40Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > You really need evidence that starving yourself for a week and a half can have negative physical consequences. OK, whatever. > > [Refeeding syndrome - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome) I tried that already. Apparently if you don’t starve yourself while being a bride-to-be and using a nose tube to do so, it doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/96 "2012-04-24T20:45:06Z")
So we’re looking for a peer-reviewed study involving brides-to-be using an NG tube, in which one or more participants were allowed to die during the study. Right, OK. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/97 "2012-04-24T23:40:43Z")
It is fucked to put a tube in your nose unless you are currently in a hospital bed. I don’t even know if I am getting married but I don’t want to wear white because i think I am too pale and look better in colour. I’ve also seen some episodes of Bridezillas and those women are cuckoo, not only do NOT get why men put up with them —but I also question how many of them are still married after two years. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/98 "2012-04-24T23:46:41Z")
Speaking of Bridezillas, the TV show, did those women KNOW they were being recorded to appear on that show? Or were they given some kind of cover story about a generic reality show not specifically aimed at making them look like… bridezillas. Plus, if I were one of their fiances, and saw that kind of behavior on TV (or with my own eyes), my fiancee would become a Jiltzilla because I would be GONE. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/99 "2012-04-24T23:53:17Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > So we’re looking for a peer-reviewed study involving brides-to-be using an NG tube, in which one or more participants were allowed to die during the study. > > Right, OK. With the mention of the show “Bridezillas” I do believe we have a solution. Plus, using them gets around the pesky ethical issues of using animals or humans. I’ve written NIH grants up before - anyone want to handle writing the protocol and reference section? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/100 "2012-04-25T02:00:57Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Speaking of Bridezillas, the TV show, did those women KNOW they were being recorded to appear on that show? Or were they given some kind of cover story about a generic reality show not specifically aimed at making them look like… bridezillas. > > Plus, if I were one of their fiances, and saw that kind of behavior on TV (or with my own eyes), my fiancee would become a Jiltzilla because I would be GONE. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if some of them were proud of it. After all, it’s your very own special day! ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595/101 "2012-04-25T07:36:19Z")
> [@Mrs. Cake](#): > > With no wedding dress! Oooh, matron… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-k-e-diet-for-stupid-brides/619595.md?page=6)