# I pit the morons who applaud people be executed in Texas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539 "2011-09-16T17:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/61 "2011-09-19T13:58:56Z")
So you have no response to the well documented fact that bigotry has been a central tenet of the modern Republican party? How do you explain the Southern Strategy, or Republican opposition to gay marriage if not bigotry? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/62 "2011-09-19T21:19:08Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > So you have no response to the well documented fact that bigotry has been a central tenet of the modern Republican party? How do you explain the Southern Strategy, or Republican opposition to gay marriage if not bigotry? Fear? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/63 "2011-09-19T21:45:24Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > So you have no response to the well documented fact that bigotry has been a central tenet of the modern Republican party? How do you explain the Southern Strategy, or Republican opposition to gay marriage if not bigotry? Complete disregard for decency in the interest of votes? ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/64 "2011-09-19T22:18:02Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > So you have no response to the well documented fact that bigotry has been a central tenet of the modern Republican party? How do you explain the Southern Strategy, or Republican opposition to gay marriage if not bigotry? _sigh_ It wouldn’t matter what I said, or how many cites I provided, or how often I debunked yours, this discussion wouldn’t go anywhere. You’ve chosen to paint with a broad brush, and I’m not in the least interested in debating you. I just have to say that, for the record, I support gay marriage, and I’m not a bigot. In fact, I support a number of things that are anathema to Republicans. Democrats, too. To me, you’re just as bat-shift left as Bachmann is bat-shit right, and neither of those is attractive to me. Farewell. And shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/65 "2011-09-19T22:18:16Z")
Our two weapons are fear, complete disregard for decency in the interest of votes, and ruthless efficiency. No, wait. Our _three_ weapons are…look, I’ll come in again. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/66 "2011-09-20T07:23:43Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > If the DP were applied equitably to all those who commit a DP-worthy crime, regardless of race, regardless of social class and income, I would be far less opposed. So, essentially you’re for the death penalty as long as more whites and rich people are executed? I’m interested in your scheme on how to ensure the numbers remain ‘equitable’. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/67 "2011-09-20T10:34:17Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > What’s with the fucking care-bear attitude. I don’t love babies; I don’t love “someone born with down syndrome or other severe mental deficiency”. I don’t love people just because they are people. I can count the number of babies I’ve loved (get your minds out of the gutter people) on the fingers of one hand. The rest - meh. If there are 7,000,000,000 people in the world, I will not ever meet ~6,999,999,000 of them. I have no reason to love them by any definition of the word. And of the ~1,000 I meet, I’m not going to love over ~99% of them. > > And anyone who thinks they “love” me just because I share this ball of water and dirt with them…well, you just haven’t gotten to know me. Give me 10 minutes and you’ll be cheering for my execution. Then, by definition, you should be cheering for your own execution. And since it’s not illegal, how are you still around to post? It amazes me how many people are too stupid to see the big picture. Crime is _caused_ by people not loving their fellow man. It’s only because we care about you that we set up institutions where it would be illegal to physically harm another human being. It is because of the people who hate that we have to force our morality on other people. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/68 "2011-09-20T14:16:27Z")
If it upsets you to see people rejoicing in the death of others, stay off the SDMB when a prominent Republican dies. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/69 "2011-09-20T14:26:21Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > So you have no response to the well documented fact that bigotry has been a central tenet of the modern Republican party? How do you explain the Southern Strategy, or Republican opposition to gay marriage if not bigotry? See those are the Bad Republicans. I’m sure they’re just a teeny, tiny, nigh but invisible minority of the true Republican party. The overwhelmingly vast majority of Good Republicans, like those on this board, are just small government, libertarian leaning intellectuals who harbor no ill will against gays or minorities. It’s just sheer coincidence, crazy random happenstance, that the social conservatives happen to vote Republican, it’s not like their pandered to, or targeted in elections, by the Republican party. There are crazies on every side, or so it goes, and the Republican crazies are just a bit louder than the Democrat crazies. But really, they’re just a unpandered to minority of the true Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/70 "2011-09-20T14:48:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If it upsets you to see people rejoicing in the death of others, stay off the SDMB when a prominent Republican dies. > > Regards, > Shodan Over here! Over here! Come see the Liberal Hypocrisy! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/71 "2011-09-20T14:56:21Z")
Shut up, you fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/72 "2011-09-20T14:59:06Z")
> [@Rysdad](#): > > _sigh_ > > It wouldn’t matter what I said, or how many cites I provided, or how often I debunked yours, this discussion wouldn’t go anywhere. You’ve chosen to paint with a broad brush, and I’m not in the least interested in debating you. > > I just have to say that, for the record, I support gay marriage, and I’m not a bigot. In fact, I support a number of things that are anathema to Republicans. Democrats, too. > > To me, you’re just as bat-shift left as Bachmann is bat-shit right, and neither of those is attractive to me. > > Farewell. And shut the fuck up. For someone not interested in debating me, you sure do keep responding to my messages. Of course, your replies are all the same: “I don’t like what you are saying, so you must be a crazy person.” It seems pretty clear that you are ignorant on the Republicans’ rich tradition of using racism to get votes. This isn’t some crazy conspiracy theory, this is a well documented strategy that they have acknowledged. [Southern strategy - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy) Here is a quote from Lee Atwater on how the Southern Strategy worked ” You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. " Pretty racist, no? And Atwater wasn’t some fringe member of the party. At one time he was chairman of the Republican Party. As for your support of gay marriage, good for you. We are arranging your humanitarian of the year award for supporting a basic human right. Besides, I never said that you were opposed to gay marriage, I said that the Republican Party is opposed to gay marriage. Do you disagree? So there we have it, ample evidence that the Republicans have a history of appealing to racism and bigotry in order to win votes, thus making it the party of hate filled bigots. I accept your apology. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/73 "2011-09-20T16:04:57Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It amazes me how many people are too stupid to see the big picture. Crime is _caused_ by people not loving their fellow man. It’s only because we care about you that we set up institutions where it would be illegal to physically harm another human being. It is because of the people who hate that we have to force our morality on other people. Still care-bear bullshit. I most definitely do not love my fellow wo/man. I respect him/her (everyone gets a level of respect which is then built on or diminished by their actions). I respect their property (even intellectual property). I respect their right to live their life their way so long as it doesn’t harm me or a third party. But because I don’t love everybody, I must be a criminal, because that is the cause of crime. I must be really good at it too, as not only don’t I even have an arrest record, but to the best of my knowledge, no one is investigating me for anything. I’d hire myself out to Madoff as a consultant on staying under the radar, but he can’t afford me anymore. As for not executing myself, I couldn’t get from the electrical switch to the chair in time when I tried. And I’m squeamish about sticking myself with needles (not with needles in general, just in needling myself). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/74 "2011-09-20T16:09:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word troll. And, to fit in with the tenor of how this thread is going… Please shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/75 "2011-09-20T16:29:31Z")
Actually, on reflection, my apologies for having fed the troll. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/76 "2011-09-20T16:45:47Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > So there we have it, ample evidence that the Republicans have a history of appealing to racism and bigotry in order to win votes, thus making it the party of hate filled bigots. > > I accept your apology. Ample evidence is one former RNC Chairman? I assume that the left’s advantage in media bias is thus “amply” demonstrated by Benard Shaw’s book? Or is “ample” only applicable to one person’s testimony if the one person is skewering the right? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/77 "2011-09-20T18:11:26Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Ample evidence is one former RNC Chairman? > > I assume that the left’s advantage in media bias is thus “amply” demonstrated by Benard Shaw’s book? > > Or is “ample” only applicable to one person’s testimony if the one person is skewering the right? He wasn’t skewering the right, he was explaining his life’s work and I think the ample evidence is Melman, the then chair of the Republican Party issued an official apology for the Southern Strategy. That would suggest that it existed, but of course the party of hate filled bigots never lets the facts get in the way. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/78 "2011-09-20T18:38:29Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. Props, **elucidator**. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/79 "2011-09-20T18:45:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It amazes me how many people are too stupid to see the big picture. Crime is _caused_ by people not loving their fellow man. It’s only because we care about you that we set up institutions where it would be illegal to physically harm another human being. It is because of the people who hate that we have to force our morality on other people. Crime is also caused by people needing something in order to live that they cannot obtain legally, and by people with “diminished mental capacity”. I’m sure there are other examples but these are the first two that popped to mind that have nothing to do with whether or not the criminal loves their fellow man. Laws are set up to protect us, not because we love our fellow man so much that we are protecting him from…? Us? You are right about that last bit tho - people who go on the most about love, kindness and peace seem to be the ones most likely to try to force their ideas on others. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539/80 "2011-09-20T18:49:10Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > He wasn’t skewering the right, he was explaining his life’s work and I think the ample evidence is Melman, the then chair of the Republican Party issued an official apology for the Southern Strategy. That would suggest that it existed, but of course the party of hate filled bigots never lets the facts get in the way. Yes, I agree that the strategy existed. I object to the inference that it’s a major force today, and I assume you agree if you’re quoting Melman’s apology for truth. If the sins of a party follow it forever more, then why aren’t the Democrats guilty for the very tactics sgregationist tactics that gave them the southern stranglehold that the “Southern Strategy” sough to burst? Bull Connor? Democrat. George Wallace? Democrat. Jim Folsom? Democrat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-morons-who-applaud-people-be-executed-in-texas/596539.md?page=5)