# I Pit the Mother of the Texas school shooter **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 5, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691 "2022-06-05T08:40:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/1 "2022-06-05T08:40:47Z")
Most pathetic “apology” ever! “He had his reasons for doing what he did” and “Please don’t judge him”. Fuck you, cunt! Fuck you with a flaming hot cactus! Why don’t you just spit on the graves of those children. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2se0RRqGLO0/maxresdefault.jpg "Mother of Uvalde, Texas school mass shooting suspects asks for forgiveness") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2se0RRqGLO0) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/2 "2022-06-05T09:59:38Z")
Um… I agree there’s a lot to be angry about with Uvalde, but I really can’t support the pitting of someone who committed no crime. She is not the one who did the bad thing. Meanwhile, she has also lost her child, plus has to live with the horror that her child killed so many people. Not to mention the intrusion on her grief by the media and various internet denizens. Unless she bought the weapons (and she didn’t - her kid worked a job to get his own money to buy them himself) and ordered him to do the deed she is not the guilty one here. Given that she’s just lost a child she is NOT going to be rational and is reacting as a mother and not someone logical. But hey, you do you. With the shooter dead you have to blame and attack someone I suppose. Since we don’t know the names of the kids who bullied and abused the shooter throughout his school years who probably had more to do with creating this monster than anyone else let’s just attack someone who has been identified, right? _Someone_ has to pay for all that blood, right? Can’t blame the coward, incompetent police who might have saved some lives if they had gone in sooner because police are heroes even when they aren’t, right? Blame the shooter’s innocent relatives because that’s the way mob justice has always worked. Nope, can’t support this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/3 "2022-06-05T11:03:35Z")
So, if your angry enough hate speech is ok? The gun fetishists killed those kids, the gunman was just their weapon. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/4 "2022-06-05T11:44:27Z")
Gee willikers, dude. Your OP is irrational and it sounds a bit unhinged. Your anger is misplaced. I sure hope you don’t have any guns. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/5 "2022-06-05T11:46:50Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Gee willikers, dude. Your OP is irrational and it sounds a bit unhinged. Your anger is misplaced. I sure hope you don’t have any guns. - He owns a gun shop. And he’s a cop. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/6 "2022-06-05T11:47:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He owns a gun shop. And he’s a cop. Sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/7 "2022-06-05T12:05:13Z")
JFTR, the above is **not** speculation. He owns a gun shop. He is a cop. He’s said both things _many_ times. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/8 "2022-06-05T12:11:10Z")
I guess I needed a smilie face or something after ‘I hope you don’t own guns’? Yes. He loves to talk about guns 'n cops. His OP is very gun-nut-cop. That’s why I said ‘sounds about right’. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/9 "2022-06-05T12:13:27Z")
Most pathetic “pitting” ever! > [@running\_coach](#): > > He owns a gun shop. And he’s a cop. He had his reasons for doing what he did, and please don’t judge him. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/10 "2022-06-05T13:07:35Z")
The OP is a cop and a gun owner? Presumably a 2nd amendment enthusiast? What the hell happened to personal responsibility, hmm? Isn’t the gun owner responsible for what happens with the gun? Isn’t the person holding and using the gun responsible for what happens with the gun? Not anyone else? Isn’t that the cry of the 2nd amendment supporters, don’t punish the law-abiding citizens because a few can’t behave? And what do we have here? He wants to hold _someone else_ responsible for 19 murders, other than the criminal who bought and used the gun? Fucking hypocrite. The sort that gives both gun owners, cops, gun shop owners, and conservatives a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/11 "2022-06-05T13:30:33Z")
I’m sort of going with … it was about 3:30 AM where the OP lives, and he … um … really isn’t a teetotaler. I’m also going with … **As** a law enforcement officer **and** a gun **shop** owner … this shit is probably immensely complicated for him. Much as the mother of the Uvalde shooter _could be expected_ to have no end of complicated and difficult to truly understand feelings right now, so might the OP. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/12 "2022-06-05T13:32:28Z")
Nobody wants to be in the unenviable position of ratting out their kid or other relative (think of the Unabomber’s brother), but you can’t really defend them beyond flat-out claiming they were a full-blown psycho and therefore not responsible for their actions, and so on. (Which, if true, does not really deserve that level of vituperation for saying so, though saying anything but carefully considered statements to the press is usually a bad idea.) ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/13 "2022-06-05T13:47:46Z")
Her statement was self serving and extremely insensitive to the victims, their families and the community at large. I am not the only one that feels that way. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/14 "2022-06-05T13:48:48Z")
My first reaction to the interview with the mother in the car was “Damn the press. This bereft woman probably has a dozen rabid dogs nipping at her car window, shoving microphones in her face. And she’s in no shape to be talking to anyone right now.” And I’m betting that the reporter who got this soundbite isn’t thinking of the victims or even this grieving mother. They’re thinking “Damn, this is great stuff! Local press awards dinner winner, for sure. Hey, this could mean a promotion… hell, this just might be my ticket out of here to a bigger market. Fort Worth? Or do I want to get out of Texas? I hear Colorado Springs is nice…” ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/15 "2022-06-05T13:58:03Z")
> [@"DavidNRockies](#): > > **As** a law enforcement officer **and** a gun **shop** owner … this shit is probably immensely complicated for him. Not at all. Semi-auto weapons and “high capacity” magazines have been around for over a century. Millions are owned by peaceful, law abiding citizens. But repeated instances like this are a relatively new phenomenon. The guns haven’t changed. People have. But change the form of the tool. Some months back in my neck if the woods we had a guy mow down women and children in a parade with a vehicle. Now imagine his mother telling you he had his reasons and not to judge him. In both scenarios it’s a very inappropriate, grossly insensitive statement to make. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/16 "2022-06-05T13:58:53Z")
> [@digs](#): > > My first reaction to the interview with the mother in the car was “Damn the press Wow. I didn’t realize that was a live recording. I’m with you. Fuck reporters who shove microphones into the faces of grieving parents. That sentiment didn’t need to be broadcast. Also, fuck the cowardly police who didn’t do their fucking jobs. We let them carry around guns and give them all sorts of deference just because we expect them to risk their lives when we and our kids are in danger. Bastards didn’t live up to their side of the deal. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/17 "2022-06-05T14:01:07Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > inappropriate, grossly insensitive statement to make. Grieving parents feel and say dumb stuff. Yes, it was inappropriate and insensitive. That’s why the reporter shouldn’t have magnified it. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/18 "2022-06-05T14:02:33Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Given that she’s just lost a child she is NOT going to be rational and is reacting as a mother and not someone logical. I agree. If the mother was as good a parent as she could be, did not contribute to her son’s violent behavior and did not fail to report obvious signs of imminent danger, then she too is a victim and does not deserve public scorn. If what she said came across as insensitive, I give her the benefit of the doubt and figure she is not thinking clearly after enduring severe psychological trauma. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/19 "2022-06-05T14:05:33Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > If what she said came across as insensitive, I give her the benefit of the doubt and figure she is not thinking clearly after enduring severe psychological trauma. So what’s the OP’s excuse then? ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/20 "2022-06-05T14:07:10Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Also, fuck the cowardly police who didn’t do their fucking jobs. Based on what I know, assuming for the time it is true, I can’t defend their lack of action, Ever since Columbine the training changed from setting up a perimeter to the first officer(s) on the scene go in. You gear up with whatever armor, shield, helmet, etc you have in your squad, grab your rifle or shotgun, and run in. I can assure you that this incident will be the basis for police active shooter training for years to come. And rightfully so. Doesn’t change that her statement, even with pesky reporters hounding her, were hurtful and very inappropriate. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691.md?page=2)