# I Pit the Mother of the Texas school shooter

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 5, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691 "2022-06-05T08:40:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/181 "2022-06-07T17:38:40Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> One solution I think is pretty fucking feasible is an end run around the 2A nuts–so, okay, you can keep and bear as many goddamned arms as you like, however you do NOT have unfettered access to ammo. Every sale of ammo needs to be tracked and every round microstamped with a unique identifier that gets pegged to the buyer. Blockchain, BTW, would work splendidly in this instance. You buy the ammo and you are personally responsible for everything that happens to it. Someone steals your ammo? Better report it to the cops immediately because if it ends up in some poor bastard’s nugget you’re going to get hung out as an accessory. Already bought a hunnert rounds this month? Tough shit, no more for you for a while. Bring back ALL the spent casings from the last batch and you can buy more. This will aid in recycling too, always a nice touch.
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> And before the usual suspect comes in with “BuT WhAT aBOuT ReLOaDeRs HUh?” Fine, nothing’s perfect. Somebody wants to go to THAT much trouble, let them. When they get caught with unregistered ammo they can get prosecuted for THAT too on top of whatever else got them arrested. Make possession of unstamped unregulated ammo a guaranteed extra ten year’s sentence, let’s see how much of a deterrent that is.

Except that’s not gong to happen and you know it.  
Gawd forbid we suggest something that actually gets a chance of implementation.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/182 "2022-06-07T17:46:28Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Fuck reporters who shove microphones into the faces of grieving parents. That sentiment didn’t need to be broadcast.

The American media, with few exceptions, is knee deep in more than just flood waters these days. They report these events with ill-concealed enthusiasm and will do anything for an exclusive interview, the more salacious the better. We are repeatedly warned (with appropriate gravitas) that “what follows are scenes that may be graphic or offensive to viewers”. Then why show them? Ratings, of course, and cash flow from big pharma advertisers. It’s sickening.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/183 "2022-06-07T17:49:31Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Actually I also suggested it in this thread as well.

Dumbfuck, I’m not questioning where _you_ said we should spend more on mental health, I’m questioning your assertion that “someone” told you it was too expensive.

> [@pkbites](#):
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> There must be a sociological reason that such travesties are occurring at the frequency they are when they could have at any time in the last one hundred years.

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> June 07, 2022

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/184 "2022-06-07T17:55:52Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> {…} Gawd forbid we suggest something that actually gets a chance of implementation.

Yes, we should really be talking about doing things that will get approval from gun nuts . . . like repealing the National Firearms Act.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/185 "2022-06-07T18:10:24Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> And you’re a piece of shit that came here to criticize others and not help.

I came to criticize those indoctrinated with NRA bullshit. Shame that there are so many of you.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> We need every person with a gun to be licensed for the use and type of gun?

I don’t know, do we? Who are you asking?

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> How do you plan to help with that?

Help with what exactly? Seems you think there’s some globally accepted solution here that I’m not on board with. Please illuminate me.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Are you going to propose we go out and confiscate guns from people which any idiot knows will never happen?

I’ve not proposed any such thing. However those of you who continually stand up this fucking strawman all do so to accomplish the same thing…to preserve the status quo. If the fact that a lot of guns exist is your principal argument you’re a part of the fucking problem and your feelings be damned. We can propose one solution, whatever that might be, and then once we find the next problem we figure it out. One day we’ll figure out what to do about the illegal use and transfer of already owned guns…but stop deflecting from the problem being discussed in this thread most recently, that the gun store owner irresponsibly sold a kid a shit ton of guns. I’m not sure what the 300 million guns in circulation have to do with that problem except distract people and create butthurt digressions.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Or are you just going to keep feeding people like the OP your bullshit to go and ridicule you with?

OP hasn’t even responded to me. I have no idea what imagined issue you’re manufacturing here. He’s a piece of shit…pretty close to unanimity on that point in this thread. But please keep cozying up to him since he seems to be who you’re white knighting for.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Get the fuck out of here if you can’t help. I’ve been on the right side of this all my life you stupid fuckwit.

That’s the problem. You think you’re helping and any other opinion that doesn’t align with your pro-gun (just slightly less pro-gun stance than the OP) position needs to be attacked. I’m going no where, people get shouted down which is why nothing changes. Keep your lame half measures and excuses. You’re right though, you are on the right side. Not the correct side, the right-wing side.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I want to find a way to end the danger guns create through the law.

Do you though? All I hear are excuses for things that just can’t be done…so bravo, you’re doing a bang up job.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Your dumb fuck approach of shouting after every catastrophe and then doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Are you politically active or do you just yell at the TV because you won’t get off your ass? I know the answers to these questions. You and the scum like you who feed the elections into the hands of the gun nuts and GOP have done nothing.

Yes, clearly I’m the problem. Not the “allies” who keep amplifying the right’s tactics of indoctrination.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> LOOK AT THE FUCKING STATE OF AFFAIRS. THAT’S THE FAILURE OF FUCKWITS LIKE YOU TO ACT IN ANY EFFECTIVE WAY. IF YOU CAN"T COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW THEN SHUT UP AND GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Feel better? Kids are getting killed and you want to defend the status quo because you don’t like my tone? You live a a fantasy world that does not exist. You’re trying the same lame tactics that have failed from the left for my entire lifetime. It’s time to meet the right with the same bile they use. If our target is miles to the left we might land somewhere closer to sanity. But you’d prefer to aim at the middle which has never worked and ends up curving right back to the dystopian hellscape we currently exist in. Yell all you want, but you are the problem. You share the views of every Democrat that has been elected for 50 years and done nothing. You are no longer my ally, you are Vichy France.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/186 "2022-06-07T18:17:56Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> It was 50 fucking years ago that I got tear gassed and locked up for simply standing up publicly against the GOP and their fascist agenda.

Just remember: there is a special word for “compromise” with fascists. It’s called appeasement, and it tends not to turn out too well for anyone but the fascists.

Consider that instead of continuing to push this line of seeking compromise with fascist death cult that the GOP has become since the 1960s, the time has some to demand that Democrats take a hard left. Stop vilifying the progressive wing of their own party and join them. If the wider democratic establishment weren’t such damned appeasers, we wouldn’t have a conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court, and the Senate wouldn’t be crippled by the GOP right now.

Fuck appeasement.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/187 "2022-06-07T18:24:52Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> The answers are obvious, you come to this garbage dump called the Pit to hurl accusations against people who have been fighting this fight their whole lives. It was 50 fucking years ago that I got tear gassed and locked up for simply standing up publicly against the GOP and their fascist agenda.

All I’m hearing is you touting your failure. Things have gotten worse in those 50 years. The GOP continually gains ground. We’re inches from a fascist state. So you’re maybe the last person I want directing this fight. Seems like you don’t really have it in you since you’re so worried about all those things that are just too hard to do.

You’re just another narcissist Boomer who thinks only they have the solution. Yet have actually created the problem.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/188 "2022-06-07T18:40:16Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> This. The right keeps bringing up mental health, but does the US really have that many more mental health issues than the entire rest of the world?

Worth noting that many of the similar countries have universal single-payer healthcare which treats mental illness and other social services that keep misanthropes from spiraling into chaos. So even if the levels of mental illness are similar, they are actually doing something about it…

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/189 "2022-06-07T18:40:19Z")

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I’d just like to thank y’all. Your work on “constitutional carry” and repealing suppressor bans instead of thinking of any real way to limit the damage your toys produces is what’s entirely responsible for the above posts.  
The, potential, future, loss of all of your gun rights is a thing of your own creation.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/190 "2022-06-07T18:41:27Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> The guns haven’t changed. People have.

How much did an AR-15, M-16, or AK-47 cost in 1776, around the time the 2nd Amendment was written? Could an 18yo have bought one?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/191 "2022-06-07T18:41:46Z")

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You are a loser. It’s clear in every word you say, which you heard from someone else since you’ve never had an original thought in your life.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/192 "2022-06-07T18:44:01Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> How the hell could you do real background checks before computer databases existed?

You underestimate the power of bureaucracy. A gun dealer in/near any major urban area could run a credit check on potential customers in the late 19th century.

~Max

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/193 "2022-06-07T18:44:24Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> When I suggested that in a thread about the homeless I was told it would be prohibitory expensive.

How about a 1000% tax on gun sales…would pay for universal mental health services easy.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/194 "2022-06-07T18:44:58Z")

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Way to keep up the good fight, hero.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/195 "2022-06-07T18:48:04Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> You underestimate the power of bureaucracy. A gun dealer in/near any major urban area could run a credit check on potential customers in the late 19th century.

Is this sarcasm?

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/196 "2022-06-07T18:48:21Z")

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No, it’s for real.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/197 "2022-06-07T18:51:45Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> No, it’s for real.

I meant with regard to their equivalency.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/198 "2022-06-07T18:53:19Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Worth noting that many of the similar countries have universal single-payer healthcare which treats mental illness and other social services that keep misanthropes from spiraling into chaos. So even if the levels of mental illness are similar, they are actually doing something about it…

On top of that, they also have much higher levels of gun regulations. This isn’t a “pick 1” sort of solution…

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/199 "2022-06-07T18:54:07Z")

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But, but, but…people keep telling me that we need a magic bullet.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mother-of-the-texas-school-shooter/965691/200 "2022-06-07T18:57:18Z")

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And many more than six of them!

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