# I pit the mutherfucker who killed my boss yesterday **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350 "2007-04-01T23:48:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/1 "2007-04-01T23:48:05Z")
I cant come up with words at the moment other than he was much loved.He was a friend of mine and a friend of my sisters we both work with him.He made the day brighter and the world better just for being himself.His name was Kent and he’s got a housefull of kids, all daughters.. From [SFgate.com](http://SFgate.com): > [@](#): > > The California Highway Patrol arrested a Fairfield man on suspicion of driving under the influence after the vehicle he was driving was involved in a fatal head-on collision Saturday morning in Solano County. > According to the CHP, Isidro Pena, 26, was at the wheel of a 2003 Ford Expedition traveling eastbound on state Highway 12 when, at around 6:18 a.m., the Ford crossed over the double solid yellow lines and collided head on with a 1999 Ford F-250 that was traveling westbound. > > The collision blocked all lanes of the highway just east of the Western Railway Museum in Suisun. The CHP to issue a Sig-alert at 6:35 a.m. for the area. The alert was canceled at 9:05 a.m. > > Pena was taken to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek for treatment of major injuries. He was also arrested on suspicion of DUI, a CHP officer said. > > A 33-year-old Antioch man was killed in the crash, according to the CHP. > > The crash remained under investigation. I was just fixin to text you a joke Kent..say it ain’t so… ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/2 "2007-04-01T23:51:45Z")
Oh, man. That sucks so bad. I’m truly sorry for your loss and his family’s. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/3 "2007-04-01T23:52:34Z")
I’m sorry to hear about that ☹ Best wishes to his family and his co-workers. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/4 "2007-04-02T02:52:52Z")
I’m so sorry. Last year, my cousin’s fiancee was killed instantly (we fervently hope) by a drunk driver, who had a previous deportation and 4 DUIs on his record. Yeah. Her car wasn’t even recognizable as a car. Her [killer](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20070221-1427-bn21perez.html) got 21 years. Probably eligible for parole in 14 or so, IIRC. ETA- oh yeah, he didn’t have a [drivers license](http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070222/news_1mi22perez.html) either. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/5 "2007-04-02T03:10:08Z")
I’m so sorry for your loss. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/6 "2007-04-02T04:32:34Z")
That sucks, man. ☹ My condolences to you and his friends and family. Why isn’t it ever the drunk who gets killed? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/7 "2007-04-02T04:36:48Z")
Horrible. Wishing you Peace and Light in getting through this. ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/8 "2007-04-02T04:39:15Z")
How awful. I’m so sorry for your loss, and for the family. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/9 "2007-04-02T04:55:25Z")
Condolences to you. Sorry to hear of your loss. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/10 "2007-04-02T04:56:21Z")
A drunk who wasn’t even supposed to be in this country killed him? Toss him out again. Maybe brand a big **D** in the middle of his forehead. And no, I don’t really think that should be done(the branding). But I agree with a previous question, how come the drunks survive? A while back in my own town a guy who was both drugged and drunk struck a car and killed six people, two moms and their four kids. He survived with minor injuries. How can that happen? ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/11 "2007-04-02T05:12:16Z")
They just did a new story out here in the Valley about him. The latest information says he was also carrying meth. Sorry for your loss. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/12 "2007-04-02T05:24:04Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] Why isn’t it ever the drunk who gets killed? :mad: [/QUOTE] One possible factor is that a drunk is more likely to be limp when the collision occurs than a sober person would be. **Tony Montana** , yet another voice of (admittedly inadequate) condolence. I lost two wonderful friends twenty years ago to a DUI who had had his license revoked because of previous violations and should not have been on the road; but after a few beers he thought it would be the best thing in the world to lift his father’s car keys and go for a ride. He wiped out my friends and two soldiers, and walked away without a scratch. (At the trial the man’s father pleaded with the judge to let his son come home. When the judge asked if he could keep his son from driving, the man replied, “Well, I guess he won’t be driving _that_ car again.” I didn’t know who I wanted to strangle more.) ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/13 "2007-04-02T09:16:07Z")
My condolences, **Tony Montana** , and belated ones **EJsGirl** Wish I had something better to offer ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/14 "2007-04-02T12:26:20Z")
Thanks to all… ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/15 "2007-04-02T12:36:53Z")
Sorry Tony. Really sorry. May you all find solace… ---
**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/16 "2007-04-02T19:20:56Z")
As someone who’s been convicted of DUI and who as a result has met with many others who’ve also been through the same, it angers me to no end that the people who propogate this kind of destruction are allowed to do so. As part of my conviction, I was required to go through state-mandated risk treatment and I have seen it firsthand. I know alcoholics, and I have gradually cut them out of my life even before this all happened because I never shared their behavior. An alcoholic can’t control how, when, or where they drink, or what they do after they have done so. You don’t have to be an alcoholic to make a mistake, and it takes more than a casual interview with someone to determine how deeply seated their alcohol addiction might be. My best friend lost his brother to a self-inflicted crash which only involved him. One of the best guys in the world, but could not pull himself away from the idea of driving after drinking. He lived to the age of 34 without hurting a soul, until one day he flipped his SUV at high speed and died instantly. His behavior went unpoliced for years until his death. He was loved throughout the community and more people attended his memorial than I’ll probably ever know in my life, but he had a terrible problem that many people feared would be his end and it turned out to be true. Just because he was a good man and a good driver doesn’t mean he had proper judgment, and I can’t justify or condone his actions even though he was the only person who suffered from them. There is no justification for driving after drinking because it’s a black and white issue, but there _are_ degrees of offense that can be committed whilst doing so. From my experience, it seems that the people who commit the worst offenses get the least punishment while the first time offenders who commit minor infractions practically have the book thrown at them. Fully nine out of ten people I met during the course of my treatment were good folks who were more than well aware of the mistake they made and knew even from the onset they’d never be making it again, myself included. I was speeding late at night and would’ve been ticketed, intoxicated or not. It was on a one-way, non-curved off-ramp with no traffic, vehicular or pedestrian, and the simple fact is I got nabbed for taking it at 60 rather than 40 because it was 2am and I drew attention to myself. I take my driving seriously and don’t commit gross acts of reckless, social maladjustment around others cars or pedestrians, and most of the folks I met were arrested under lesser circumstances than even myself. Several were women who were intentionally driving extra carefully. It’s also these people who were, by and large, arrested mostly under suspicion or at a random stop. There was, of course, always that one person out of perhaps ten who didn’t deserve to be there with us all. You know, the person who was determined from the onset to end his/her treatment the same way it began: renouncing the entire process and eschewing any notion that they made a mistake, since they don’t have a problem to begin with. Unsettling to the point of being speechless. Why these people aren’t the focus of further scrutiny by the state is also beyond me. These are the type of people who probably also speed, shift lanes every seven seconds, and who are just generally impatient with the world at large to begin with and who, if they ever cause an accident, attribute it not to themselves but to the fact that someone got in their way. How on earth anyone accumulates four offenses and isn’t spending time pondering the fact behind bars simply boggles the mind. It’s that one offender out of ten who just manages to sneak through the cracks (not once, not twice, but often multiple times) to commit acts of tragedy in the lives of people who have nothing to do with the problem. If there were any justice, the families of the victims would determine the fate of the offender. Sorry for the long post but I have more exposure to this stuff than I care to admit. My condolences for what’s occurred. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/17 "2007-04-02T19:24:04Z")
I am so sorry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/18 "2007-04-02T20:26:08Z")
[QUOTE=Baker] A drunk who wasn’t even supposed to be in this country killed him? Toss him out again. Maybe brand a big **D** in the middle of his forehead. And no, I don’t really think that should be done(the branding). But I agree with a previous question, how come the drunks survive? A while back in my own town a guy who was both drugged and drunk struck a car and killed six people, two moms and their four kids. He survived with minor injuries. How can that happen? [/QUOTE] They get killed all the time, actually. It just doesn’t make for as compelling a new story. More than 40% of all traffic fatalities are related to drunk driving. It’s a plague, and the punishments aren’t severe enough. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/19 "2007-04-02T21:02:58Z")
My husband is on a different message board, and they recently lost a member to being killed by a drunk driver, and a second member was seriously injured by one a week or so later. It is a freakin’ plague. I absolutely hate the idea that I can be the best driver in the world, taking driving very seriously and trying to not make any mistakes and never driving while drunk (well, mostly because I don’t drink, but still…), and some other loser can end my life or put me in a wheelchair or give me a lifetime of serious chronic pain in a heartbeat. Sorry to hear about your boss, **Tony**. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350/20 "2007-04-02T21:53:11Z")
Part of the problem is that everyone decries the drunk driver, but never thinks **they’re** one of 'em. I don’t believe the average person has any idea of what amount of drinking will cause a 0.08% BAL in them. It aint’ much. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-mutherfucker-who-killed-my-boss-yesterday/398350.md?page=2)