# I pit the NFL broadcasts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486 "2023-10-13T01:31:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/41 "2023-10-14T12:10:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I have nothing to add, but I do want to say that “enshittification” is an excellent addition to the English language. Well done and thank you for it! As @Maserschmidt said, I deserve and take no credit for it. The term is quite useful since it really fits so much of modern life far beyond websites. Here are the **[22 SDMB threads](https://boards.straightdope.com/search?q=enshittification)** that use the term. So far. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/42 "2023-10-15T12:12:25Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > “Hey coach, you guys are getting your asses kicked out there in the first half. How do you feel about that, and what will you do different in the 2nd half??” Any coach in his right mind should say “We are on live TV. The opposing coach certainly watches your show, so I’m not going to tell you on live TV what we’re going to do in the second half.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/43 "2023-10-15T13:37:02Z")
I’m just waiting for the inevitable breakup and the subsequent #1 hit song that will come from it. And it won’t be just about the heartbreak, but about football, too! This thread has me wondering if their relationship is just a business arrangement between the NFL and Swift Inc. Look at the cross-promotion possibilities! It’s creating a new “personality” to replace Rodgers. It makes sense, in a “dystopian science fiction warning story” way. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/44 "2023-10-15T14:19:07Z")
It’s possible this is all a planned thing, but it could also be the NFL just seizing on the opportunity to get new, young, female eyes watching the Chiefs broadcasts each week. If this works out I would not put it past the league to start trying to hook up players on other teams with other well-known entertainment. Think of the possibilities!! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/45 "2023-10-15T15:09:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > “We are on live TV. The opposing coach certainly watches your show, so I’m not going to tell you on live TV what we’re going to do in the second half.” Alternatively he could sarcastically give out a phony game plan. “We’re going to be doing all play-action fakes and quick screen passes to the left side. A hundred percent.” ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/46 "2023-10-15T15:23:29Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’m just waiting for the inevitable breakup and the subsequent #1 hit song that will come from it. And it won’t be just about the heartbreak, but about football, too! > > This thread has me wondering if their relationship is just a business arrangement between the NFL and Swift Inc. Look at the cross-promotion possibilities! It’s creating a new “personality” to replace Rodgers. > > It makes sense, in a “dystopian science fiction warning story” way. It does, there’s no celebrity for pro athletes without their WAG’s ( wives and girlfriends) boosting their popularity. > **[Taylor Swift and the Great WAG Revival](https://www.glamour.com/story/taylor-swift-and-the-great-wag-revival)** > > They're revered, reviled, and routinely underestimated, but the wives and girlfriends of professional athletes—WAGs, if you will—are a force to be reckoned with. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/47 "2023-10-15T15:36:54Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’m just waiting for the inevitable breakup and the subsequent #1 hit song that will come from it. And it won’t be just about the heartbreak, but about football, too! Oh, the Jets are playing today. I guess that means that the Hill-Billy Aaron Rogers is going to do nothing today but sit on his ass and try to threaten Travis Kelce or challenge him to a duel. Sorry, Aaron, but you embody two of the qualities Taylor doesn’t like in a BF: You’re Lame. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/48 "2023-10-15T15:39:30Z")
Ooh, low blow. Wait, how did he injure his achilles tendon? Didn’t he ‘inoculate’ himself against that? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/49 "2023-10-15T15:39:52Z")
Saturday Night Live (SNL) did a somewhat funny bit on the whole “Swift at NFL (National Football League) games” thing last night. The OP isn’t the only one who’s noticed. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/50 "2023-10-15T15:45:02Z")
I thought it was funny and the whole Taylor-Kelce thing is romantic and cute. There is a picture of them arriving at SNL and the way he holds her hand and the way she looks at him, there is no way this is fake. I hope it lasts forever and they have many pretty babies. :raspberry: ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/51 "2023-10-15T16:16:40Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Wait, how did he injure his achilles tendon? Didn’t he ‘inoculate’ himself against that? Wasn’t he a big fan of Ivermectin…? That can’t be doing good things down there. And ‘Natural Healing’? Where did he get that from? A bad Marvin Gaye cover…? . . ♫ \< Get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! \> ♫ Let’s make points today…! \> ♫ \< Wake Up! Wake Up! Wake Up! Wake Up! \> ♫ Coach says ‘Earn Your Pay…!’ ♫ Bayyyyyyyy-beeeeee! I’m feelin’ much Stronger…! ♫ (These Hemorrhoids… be meltin’ longer and longer…) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/52 "2023-10-19T09:45:31Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I blame ESPN and the ideas behind it for the overall enshittification of professional sports. I think your estimate might be about [a hundred years off.](https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2013/04/06/mr-wrigleys-ball-club) > [@](#): > > The Cubs had so much going for them during the 1920s. […] William Veeck, operating out of the front office, was the first executive to recognize how radio coverage and Ladies Day would help the Cubs to draw more fans than the Yankees could assemble. > > And, as Roberts Ehrgott points out in his terrific book about the team, the Cubs of the '20s never lacked drama. Of Chicago baseball at the end of the decade, he writes, “There would be bizarre World Series humiliations, fallings-out between old comrades, immortal deeds and records, sackings, near misses, fistfights, scandals, a shooting, vaudeville, high comedy, low drama.” “The male arena of sports fandom” is itself, and always was, a soap opera. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/53 "2023-10-19T10:17:56Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > NFL broadcasts jumped the shark a decade or two ago. > > The audio is almost pure off-field soap opera and front office shenanigans. So WWE, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/54 "2023-10-19T10:51:11Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > “The male arena of sports fandom” is itself, and always was, a soap opera. Granted the teams and players were always human organizations full of strivers and big egos and colorful characters. just like where you and I work. Veeck was famous precisely because at a time baseball took itself rather seriously, Veeck demonstrably did not. he made sure colorful antics made the news. The rest of baseball was appalled. And more importantly to my argument, did _not_ follow suit in their own promotions, etc. What is different, and we have the recordings to prove it, is what the game announcing was like 50 years ago and what it’s like now. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/55 "2023-10-19T11:12:14Z")
Oh, I don’t deny that actual game broadcasts were much more stripped-down, back when media was much less diversified and airtime minutes were more strictly rationed, than nowadays when instantly available content is essentially infinite. I just don’t think that sports fandom itself was ever particularly hostile to fluff and chatter. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/56 "2023-10-19T11:49:11Z")
> [@Dogginit](#): > > I didn’t tune in to see Taylor Swift on my screen every time Travis Kelce did something even remotely remarkable. I tuned in to watch football. I feel you, believe me! I don’t mind them doing it once. After all, she is a major star. I saw this in the game the Bears played against KC, and they showed that shot at least a dozen times. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/57 "2023-10-19T13:52:42Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > “The male arena of sports fandom” is itself, and always was, a soap opera. Even the “famous wife/girlfriend” trope is old. Forget Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, what about Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/58 "2023-10-19T19:42:07Z")
Honestly, people just like whining. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486/59 "2023-10-19T20:05:06Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Anyhow they used to have a show (_NFL Replay_?) where they produced a cut-down version of the game with all the non-playing BS removed, no replays, and all the unproductive plays removed too, except for a couple that were especially exciting or athletic. You’re thinking of NFL shortcuts on directv back when they had the Sunday ticket package. You can still get condensed games (though these ones run closer to 40 minutes rather than 25) by subscribing to NFL+. Same idea, but contains a little more content like some replays. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-nfl-broadcasts/991486.md?page=2)