# I pit the pig that is Monica Lewinsky, over some pork chops on the barbie (BBQ) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 2, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161 "2014-07-02T02:46:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/61 "2014-07-02T17:58:29Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > What she did was immoral. A lot has been written about Clinton’s role in all this but not much about hers. I find her more repellent to be honest, much more so. She wasn’t breaking any marital vows, which Mr. Clinton obviously was. She wasn’t taking advantage of a much younger and much less powerful person, as Mr. Clinton arguably was. I’d ask how you think she is more immoral than she, but you clearly wrote the OP either to provoke outrage or to vent misogyny, so I’m gonna eat these peanuts instead. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/62 "2014-07-02T18:05:54Z")
Who flashed the thong panties at whom, **Skald**? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/63 "2014-07-02T18:08:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Who flashed the thong panties at whom, **Skald**? Ms. Lewinsky, I assume. Who was married and cheating on his wife? Who was the leader of the most powerful nation in the free world? I’m not saying Ms. Lewinsky wasn’t behaving immorally. I"m saying that calling her behavior more immoral than Mr. Clinton’s is idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/64 "2014-07-02T18:18:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Who flashed the thong panties at whom, **Skald**? Juuuust in case this isn’t a whoosh… Let me get this straight… An intern, I’ll repeat that, _an intern_, makes a pass at The President Of The United States Of America, a man who is supposed to have the maturity and common damn sense to be entrusted with the security of the nation, and in the ensuing trainwreck, she’s more responsible? If I was just whooshed then go ahead, get it over with, point and laugh at me… Are we done? Good, back to your regularly scheduled **kstarnes** idiocy… ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/65 "2014-07-02T18:46:40Z")
Can we all agree that **kstarnes** is a fuckwit of the first order? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/66 "2014-07-02T18:52:58Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Can we all agree that **kstarnes** is a fuckwit of the first order? I never realized that was in question. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/67 "2014-07-02T18:58:41Z")
Baby steps. We’ll work up to the big questions of moral relativism and ketchup on hot dogs later. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/68 "2014-07-02T19:11:55Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Can we all agree that **kstarnes** is a fuckwit of the first order? He/she is a member of the Order of the Fuckwit, 33rd degree, by appointment of Her Majesty The Queen. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/69 "2014-07-02T20:03:35Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > You know, what \*is \*it with Sean Bean always getting killed off, and often well before the end of the movie? Do directors pick him for roles like that because he’s good at dying, or is he like Heston and not wanting to replay a role so he gets himself killed off so he can’t be brought back in a sequel? Guess who he’s portraying next? Julius Caesar. I think Mr. Bean is trolling the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/70 "2014-07-02T20:17:08Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > You just described grilling in a discussion about BBQ. > > Pistols at dawn, sir! Blow me!:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/71 "2014-07-02T20:19:35Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Can we all agree that **kstarnes** is a fuckwit of the first order? I think this may end up being the first topic in all of history that all Dopers will be 100% unanimous on. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/72 "2014-07-02T21:55:24Z")
And that’s saying something. We can’t even agree on blowjobs. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/73 "2014-07-02T22:58:00Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Blow me!:mad: _Paging Ms. Lewinsky!_ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/74 "2014-07-02T23:15:45Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Caught carrying on with a President with wife and children? Has a bit of a showy side that some consider flaunting conventional morality and a lack of inhibitions? For whom there are famous articles of clothing? > > Um…Marilyn Monroe? > > ETA: I would hazard **kstarnes** (or whatever asshole blog he reads) would find some lame reason it’s nowhere close to being the same. Funny how that works. Well of course. Marilyn was hot. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/75 "2014-07-03T00:06:11Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Marilyn was hot. Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/76 "2014-07-03T00:15:46Z")
Monroe or Manson? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/77 "2014-07-03T00:19:52Z")
Oof. Manson certainly does not rate a Meh. Swear to Og I have no idea what Dita or Rachel saw in him. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/78 "2014-07-03T01:20:05Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Baby steps. We’ll work up to the big questions of moral relativism and ketchup on hot dogs later. 😛 There is never anything wrong with ketchup on hot dogs, sheeple. > [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Monroe or Manson? McCoo. ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/79 "2014-07-03T01:36:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > C’mon, it might not be just misogyny. It could be anti-semitism too. I believe anti-semenism is more likely. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/80 "2014-07-03T02:09:58Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I still feel sorry for her though. I mean, lots of young women have gotten involved with powerful married men, but they don’t end up being a national pariah, or the butt of lame jokes like the OP. She didn’t deserve that. Bill and Monica were each guilty of First Degree Stupidity. Bill, for getting involved with an intern, for getting blow jobs right there in the Oval Office, even while talking to a Senator on the phone, and for not being sure what the meaning of “is” is. Monica, for having an affair with the Prez _and bragging about it to everyone she knew!_ It just doesn’t get any stupider than that. She shouted it from the rooftops. She wasn’t a victim and nobody who blames her is victim-blaming. She darn well asked for and deserved all the shit she got. Unless, of course, you consider Stupidity to be a defense, or a disability. (Which might actually be a reasonable argument to make.) The memorable wisdom of my 7th grade Electric Shop teacher, whenever somebody did something stupid: > [@Mr. Dowd](#): > > Do you know what that is? That’s DUMBNESS! You know what dumbness is? Dumbness is a DISEASE! YOU CAN DIE FROM DUMBNESS! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161.md?page=5)