# I pit the pig that is Monica Lewinsky, over some pork chops on the barbie (BBQ)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 2, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161 "2014-07-02T02:46:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/81 "2014-07-03T02:15:26Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Bill, for getting involved with an intern, for getting blow jobs right there in the Oval Office, even while talking to a Senator on the phone, and for not being sure what the meaning of “is” is.

I don’t think you know what the meaning of the meaning of is thing was.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/82 "2014-07-03T03:24:49Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I always found her attractive. Beautiful face, nice hair, pleasantly plump…
> 
> I still feel sorry for her though. I mean, lots of young women have gotten involved with powerful married men, but they don’t end up being a national pariah, or the butt of lame jokes like the OP. She didn’t deserve that.

I don’t sorry for her; I just don’t. There are for far worse fates to be had in life, just look a all the stuff she has been able to do since them. I think a lot of anonymous working stiffs would gladly trade places with her.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/83 "2014-07-03T03:30:23Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> … working stiffs …

Hee hee.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/84 "2014-07-03T03:33:46Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Hee hee.

I don’t know how I couldn’t see that coming.:smack:  
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Oh god, I just did it again:eek:

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/85 "2014-07-03T04:49:36Z")

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> [@Spiff](#):
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> By calling a grill a BBQ, you are propagating the very ignorance that you are purporting to fight.
> 
> Stop it!
> 
> Now!
> 
> 😃

I’ll admit that it’s OK to call a grill “the barbie” or “the BBQ” if you’re in Australia. But given that the OP appeared to be complaining about shenanigans that took place in America, I thought it best to explain the American definition.

😃

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/86 "2014-07-03T09:38:26Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I don’t think you know what the meaning of the meaning of is thing was.

Seconded.  
It wasn’t that **he** didn’t know, it was that as a politician and a lawyer, he knew how to weasel his way out of a question without, in the strictest sense of the word, lying.

Answer the question that’s asked, and only the question that’s asked.

Clinton actually went on to elaborate and further clarify his position, which did, truly, hinge on the definition of the word “is”.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/87 "2014-07-03T14:12:54Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Someone help me out here. Why. The fuck. Did I click on a **kstarnes** thread?

If you view the site similar to the way I do, I just read the topic and replies and rarely pay attention to the user names. I don’t start noticing user names until they start posting exceptionally stupid or exceptionally witty responses.

While I shook my head at the OP, I didn’t pay attention to the poster because, let’s be honest, this is far from the stupidest thing **kstarnes** has ever posted. It wasn’t until others started referencing the OP in their posts (like you did) that I went, _“ah, **kstarnes** , the OP makes much more sense now”._ Obviously, I remember that name for the exceptionally witty stuff he posts. 😛 🆒

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/88 "2014-07-03T14:16:58Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I think this may end up being the first topic in all of history that all Dopers will be 100% unanimous on.

There might…_might_…be one dissenter. My guess is that the OP would disagree, but it’s just a guess and I fully admit, and even hope, that I may be wrong.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/89 "2014-07-03T14:28:11Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Being a life-long resident of North Carolina, I can assure the OP that proper “BBQ” does not involve pork chops.
> 
> It also doesn’t involve mustard, but that’s another thread. 😉

Jeez, you are nearly as bad as the Texans when it comes to defining BBQ.

Also, I can BBQ thick cut pork chops. Mmmm, smoky thick cut pork chops finished with a reverse sear and light glaze of ones favorite sauce.

I’m off to the butcher. Who needs burgers and dogs\* when one can have smoked pork chops?

\*No ketchup on hot dogs ever. As I tell my wife and daughter, who insist on defiling dogs thus, when I am Supreme Emperor of the Universe, that will a crime punishable by instant death.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/90 "2014-07-03T22:40:07Z")

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Hey! What’s wrong with Texas barbecue? ☹

_looks around, remembers that she’s in The Pit_

What the _ **fuck** _ do you think is wrong with our BBQ? :mad:

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/91 "2014-07-03T23:50:11Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Someone help me out here. Why. The fuck. Did I click on a **kstarnes** thread?

Because all the responses are hilarious! If he’s a troll, he’s the worst one I’ve ever seen. People would rather crack jokes than respond to him.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/92 "2014-07-03T23:57:56Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Hey! What’s wrong with Texas barbecue? ☹
> 
> _looks around, remembers that she’s in The Pit_
> 
> What the _ **fuck** _ do you think is wrong with our BBQ? :mad:

I love Texas BBQ. I also love NC BBQ, SC BBQ, Georgia BBQ, _et al_.\* However, many Texans seem to be of the opinion that if Texas does something one way, that is the only way it should be done (see _chili with beans_). **Jeep’s Phoenix** was just doing the NC version of limiting the definition.

\*Haven’t tried any BBQ with an Alabama white sauce, so we can exclude that one from the list for now.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/93 "2014-07-04T01:01:17Z")

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2 lbs ground beef  
2 cups chopped onions  
4 cups beef stock  
2 (8 ounce) cans tomato sauce  
2 -3 tablespoons chili powder  
2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar  
2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce  
1/2 ounce grated unsweetened chocolate or 2 3/4 tablespoons cocoa  
2 teaspoons instant minced garlic  
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon  
1 teaspoon ground cumin  
1/2 teaspoon salt  
1/2 teaspoon ground red pepper or 1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper  
1/4 teaspoon ground allspice  
1/4 teaspoon ground cloves  
1 bay leaves or 1/8 teaspoon bay leaf powder

[ul]  
[li]Brown ground beef and onion.[/li][li]Drain.[/li][li]Add beef stock to beef mixture and simmer 10 minutes.[/li][li]Add remaining 13 ingredients, simmer uncovered 1 hour.[/li][li]Remove bay leaf, skim off extra fat.[/li][li]Serve over hot spaghetti, or hot dogs in buns for chili dogs.[/li][li]Top with plenty of cheese and other optional toppings.[/li][/ul]

And they say folk in Cincinnati don’t know how to make Chile

Now that’s trolling 😉

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/94 "2014-07-04T01:41:05Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> Ingredients:
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> ```
> 4 1-inch thick pork chops . . . Let them sit in liquid for about 15 minutes (should be enough time to give POTUS a BJ) . . . .
> 
> ```

Does that instruction make that a recipe for Pork Chops Lewinski?

I mostly tried to ignore the big event, back when it was happening. The only thing I have against her comes from an interview that she gave some time long enough after that I thought it would be safe to watch the television again.

She completely misused the word subtle. Just, damn.

Oh, **Tapioca Dextrin** , do you need any bay leaves? I have a tree. Not bay laurel, either it’s the culinary variety. I could mail a few. They don’t get used nearly enough.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/95 "2014-07-04T01:43:28Z")

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I’ll swap it for rosemary. That stuff is taking over the back yard.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/96 "2014-07-04T02:08:02Z")

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If I ever need a source of insensitive fat-joke/insults, I’ll know who to turn to. “All you can eat immorality” did make me chuckle, ashamedly ☹

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/97 "2014-07-04T02:51:11Z")

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> [@kstarnes](#):
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> The re-emergence of Ms. Lewinsky has stirred up old feelings in me.
> 
> This woman is a pig, through and through. In the literal sense, she resembles a pig. In the metaphorical sense, because she takes a “buffet-all-you-can-eat” approach to life, a woman who has no sense of shame or inhibition. I mean, having an affair with the president? Was she not aware that he’s a married man with a daughter? Did you think of her? Wait, but there is more. She was simultaneously hedging her bets, while playing with the president, she was also sleeping with another man which resulted in a pregnancy which she aborted. What a disgusting pig.
> 
> I pit Monica Lewinsky and I pit Lewinskyism (= all-you-can-eat immorality.)
> 
> Furthermore, what kind of person saves a semen stained dress?? A pig, a sicko pig.
> 
> [Monica Lewinsky 'writing tell-all memoir because she needs the money' | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206057/Monica-Lewinsky-writing-tell-memoir-needs-money.html)

Get a fucking life, you dumb fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/98 "2014-07-04T03:26:32Z")

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Well, there’s really nothing more to say.

/thread

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/99 "2014-07-04T03:29:41Z")

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> [@kstarnes](#):
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> The re-emergence of Ms. Lewinsky has stirred up old feelings in me.
> 
> This woman is a pig, through and through. In the literal sense, she resembles a pig. In the metaphorical sense, because she takes a “buffet-all-you-can-eat” approach to life, a woman who has no sense of shame or inhibition. I mean, having an affair with the president? Was she not aware that he’s a married man with a daughter? Did you think of her? Wait, but there is more. She was simultaneously hedging her bets, while playing with the president, she was also sleeping with another man which resulted in a pregnancy which she aborted. What a disgusting pig.
> 
> I pit Monica Lewinsky and I pit Lewinskyism (= all-you-can-eat immorality.)
> 
> Furthermore, what kind of person saves a semen stained dress?? A pig, a sicko pig.
> 
> [Monica Lewinsky 'writing tell-all memoir because she needs the money' | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206057/Monica-Lewinsky-writing-tell-memoir-needs-money.html)

Hehe. All you can eat indeed.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-pig-that-is-monica-lewinsky-over-some-pork-chops-on-the-barbie-bbq/692161/100 "2014-07-04T04:45:38Z")

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My god, kstarnes, what a fucking fuck you are.  
PLEASE STFU.

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