# I pit the President for making the same excuse again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 20, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864 "2014-05-20T21:15:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/301 "2014-05-31T14:59:37Z")
No, his ears are closed. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/302 "2014-05-31T19:00:19Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Seems to me that the latter would be a whistling sound. Not if it’s a dog-whistle. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/303 "2014-05-31T19:34:26Z")
At least we have accountability! That is, as always, the most important thing, firing somebody. OK, second most, after blaming Obama. Somewhere on the list must be fixing the problem. Third, maybe, but I doubt it. Eighth, ninth, somewhere. I’ll not soon forget how he was sent by the neo-cons to lie about the prospective “cakewalk” in Iraq, and to his everlasting credit, spoke truth. A pity that Gen Powell didn’t have his courage and integrity. Whole lot of people might still be alive. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/304 "2014-05-31T23:04:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > “Diverse descriptiveness”… excellent use of sophisticated-sounding language to say absolutely nothing. > > The 2016 election will give us the first indication of how the country will, in the long term, view the Obama Presidency. If the Democratic candidate wins, Obama’s legacy, long-term, will be equivalent to Reagan’s in his party (and possibly in the nation at large). The ACA will be permanent and will continue to increase in both popularity and in effectiveness (as it’s tweaked by a forced-into-reality Congress). If the Republican wins a close election, then it will be much closer to Bill Clinton’s, at least in the short term. If the Republican wins somehow in a landslide, then Obama will probably be seen as much closer to Jimmy Carter. > > But your efforts to declare his Presidency a failure at this point (which you’ve been doing for years, now) are transparent and pathetic. > > You really need to do something else besides pore through editorials to find phrases that you can cherry-pick that seem to put Obama in a bad light. It’s just sad… and further, it’s boring. Really, really boring. You’ve already given up on so many things – you’ve abandoned your silly lines of attack on the ACA, you fled from (and never really addressed) your pathetic failure on the 2012 election predictions, and eventually this VA thing will be gone too. Try something new. It doesn’t matter who wins the Presidency in 2016 if Obama leaves office with more people disapproving than approving. It just means that the next Democrat will succeed where John McCain failed in distancing him or herself from the sitting President. And the reason I say he’s a failed President is because he doesn’t seem to learn. But hey, maybe the next bureaucratic scandal will bring a different answer than “I found out when the rest of the country did.” You know, because we kinda pay him to know what his administration is doing. Next time I catch something before he does I want part of his salary. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/305 "2014-05-31T23:09:10Z")
Do it the _first_ time, we’ll give you all of it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/306 "2014-06-01T02:15:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It doesn’t matter who wins the Presidency in 2016 if Obama leaves office with more people disapproving than approving. LOL. Of all the incredibly stupid things you’ve posted… > [@](#): > > It just means that the next Democrat will succeed where John McCain failed in distancing him or herself from the sitting President. Or that, even among a population with a plurality that disapprove of Obama, they still prefer him (and his Democratic successor) to the alternative. As they did in '08 and '12, by a pretty decent majority. > [@](#): > > And the reason I say he’s a failed President is because he doesn’t seem to learn. In that case, you are a failed Doper. What have you learned since your pathetic failure in predicting the 2012 election? > [@](#): > > But hey, maybe the next bureaucratic scandal will bring a different answer than “I found out when the rest of the country did.” Ooohhh… bureaucratic scandals! If the worst thing that happened under Obama turns out to be a few bureaucratic scandals, then his record could be the best since Eisenhower! ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/307 "2014-06-01T04:52:20Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, his ears are closed. Makes a matching set with his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864/308 "2014-06-01T06:13:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > [@adaher](#): > > > > And the reason I say he’s a failed President is because he doesn’t seem to learn. > > In that case, you are a failed Doper. It’s comedy gold and it writes itself! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-president-for-making-the-same-excuse-again/688864.md?page=15)