# I pit the rape culture at the University of Virginia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515 "2014-11-24T20:01:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/141 "2014-12-19T01:07:17Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > For one thing, it would provoke a huge backlash from outraged rape victim advocates. In my world actual rape victims would be outraged with her, and not with people asking that she face some consequences. The people that would be doing the on line complaining about that would be the same people that made a scientist cry recently for wearing the wrong shirt. I’m not holding my breath however as far as her facing consequences go. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/142 "2014-12-19T01:36:19Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > It’s been known for a while. Her name is Jackie Coakely. That hasn’t yet been confirmed so let’s be careful. Besides if “Jackie” really was her real name, not a pseudonym than the reporter Eberly was even more incompetent than I could possibly have imagined. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/143 "2014-12-19T03:25:03Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > …For another, she didn’t falsely accuse any real-life person of raping her. She just spun a false story about a non-existent rapist to a few friends and a magazine. (post shortened) She was aware that the story was going to be published by a national magazine and did nothing to stop it. Anyone who suffered injury (mental anguish?) because of this woman’s malicious, and knowingly false accusations could file suit. The fraternity, the individual members of the fraternity, the college, and the fellow who was unfortunate enough to attend the same high school as her could have grounds to sue. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/144 "2015-01-07T03:16:16Z")
> [@](#): > > The University of Virginia unveiled strict new rules for fraternity parties Tuesday as it lifted the suspension on Greek social life imposed after a controversial Rolling Stone article in November. The new rules, including a requirement that a sober fraternity member monitor bedrooms during parties, attempt to reform social life at the Charlottesville campus … > > The new UVA rules require each fraternity party to have at least three brothers who are “sober and lucid” and not first-year students. “The sober brother charged with monitoring the stairs must have immediate key access to each room in the fraternity house during the social function,” the document states. That sober fraternity member would act to intervene in dangerous situations and stop unauthorized people from entering bedrooms. > **[UVA Reveals Strict New Rules On Fraternity Parties](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/uva-fraternity-parties-rules_n_6425748)** > > UVA Reveals Strict New Rules On Fraternity Parties ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/145 "2015-01-08T21:47:04Z")
But we can still Pit the rape culture, right? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/146 "2015-01-08T21:53:38Z")
Can we blame blacks for the crime and violence culture? May we blame Muslims for the terrorist culture? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/147 "2015-01-08T21:57:29Z")
So no one else had the reaction of “strict new rules” along the lines of: “the fox guarding the chicken house” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/148 "2015-01-08T22:01:08Z")
I, for one, am confident that this will do absolutely nothing to reduce the number of incidents in which women are raped on top of a pile of broken glass as part of an initiation ritual. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/149 "2015-01-08T22:35:55Z")
You’d think after these revelations they’d slink away with their head down. No, they’re doubling down on stupid. They now want [secret rape trials & mandatory women studies](http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/20627/) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/150 "2015-01-08T22:46:50Z")
Because, you know, [secret sex trials have such a proud and accomplished history in the collegiate world.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Court_of_1920) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/151 "2015-04-06T13:23:48Z")
The Columbia Journalism school was asked to do a post mortem and it was pretty damning to all involved. The article was officially retracted. This was all released on Easter Sunday evening, which is a pretty huge cop out to try to bury it. Also, [somehow absolutely no one, including the author who was found to be at strong fault, was fired.](http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/06/media/rolling-stone-no-firings/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/152 "2015-04-06T16:16:36Z")
It was a main story on the TODAY show this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/153 "2015-04-06T16:22:31Z")
Still, the retraction was clearly timed to try to bury it as much as possible. I mean, why else would they release it on freakin’ Easter Sunday? ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/154 "2015-04-06T16:28:24Z")
i heard it on the radio. wait and see if nightly national news has it. i think so, it was massively bad journalism. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/155 "2015-04-06T17:32:08Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Still, the retraction was clearly timed to try to bury it as much as possible. I mean, why else would they release it on freakin’ Easter Sunday? I’m less interested in that aspect as I am that absolutely no one is fired. The author will even continue to write for Rolling Stone. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/156 "2015-04-06T17:34:26Z")
The frat is suing their asses, as they should. That will keep the flow of attention going. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/157 "2015-04-06T17:39:54Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m less interested in that aspect as I am that absolutely no one is fired. The author will even continue to write for Rolling Stone. I wouldn’t have fired anyone. Journalists should get fired for intentionally fabricating stories, not for what happened here. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/158 "2015-04-06T17:44:27Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I wouldn’t have fired anyone. Journalists should get fired for intentionally fabricating stories, not for what happened here. Should they also not be fired for performing poorly at their jobs? A couple phone calls would have discredited Jackie’s story, but they were never made. A competent journalist would have made them. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/159 "2015-04-06T17:47:27Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I wouldn’t have fired anyone. Journalists should get fired for intentionally fabricating stories, not for what happened here. They heard what they wanted to hear. It reinforced pre conceived ideas, and they didn’t let pesky research or fact finding get in their way. I would not allow that kind of blindness to continue, they could quit or be fired. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515/160 "2015-04-06T17:48:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The Columbia Journalism school was asked to do a post mortem and it was pretty damning to all involved. The article was officially retracted. This was all released on Easter Sunday evening, which is a pretty huge cop out to try to bury it. > > Also, [somehow absolutely no one, including the author who was found to be at strong fault, was fired.](http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/06/media/rolling-stone-no-firings/index.html) _“So no one gets fired and no policies change? No wonder so few trust us anymore,” former NBC News investigative correspondent Lisa Myers wrote on Twitter Sunday night_. That sums up my opinion of the whole Rolling Stone debacle. Why should anyone trust what the Rolling Stone has to say in the future? It’s obvious that they won’t hold themselves responsible for this complete fuckup. The Rolling Stone is no more responsible than an internet blog. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-rape-culture-at-the-university-of-virginia/705515.md?page=9)