# I pit the republican party for incredibly hypocrisy regarding taxes

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**Created:** [August 22, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republican-party-for-incredibly-hypocrisy-regarding-taxes/593639 "2011-08-22T11:08:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republican-party-for-incredibly-hypocrisy-regarding-taxes/593639/161 "2011-08-25T13:31:36Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> What irritates me about this statement is that there’s no room for error – you’re utterly correct, apparently.
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> Now, this would be an easier position to maintain if the position against which you inveigh were a fringe position. But when a substantial portion of the country appears to support the people you revile, it becomes a bit harder to convincingly assert that you’re completely right and your opponents completely wrong.
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> No. The Republicans are not trying to crash the country. They have a very different view than you do about the proper role of government. That’s not an objectively wrong or right position – there is no tablet from Mt Sinai that lays out the structure for how much a government’s role should be to help people and how much it should be to merely create a safe arena where people are free to help themselves.

Well, maybe not in detail suited to contract law, but I don’t think Torah is real friendly to dishonest scales (“dynamic scoring” anyone?)–I know Proverbs condemns them–and there are primitive welfare-state regulations in Torah itself. Can we get a rabbi in here?

In any case, we’ve gone past arguments about the extent of the welfare state to the Gingrich/Armey/T.E.A. Party plan to actually bankrupt the country so the other side loses.

The GOP really are trying to crash the economy now.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republican-party-for-incredibly-hypocrisy-regarding-taxes/593639/162 "2011-08-25T17:54:20Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Oh? I didn’t see that, thanks for correcting me (where does it state it on the page?). Then again, it probably should’ve been obvious; those amounts did seem ridiculously low. Still, even a few hundred thousand isn’t bank-breaking for Cali in such a situation.

Check the footnote in the box in the upper right of your first link. I’ve been dealing with government financial statements long enough so that the first thing I look for is the note saying how many zeros they’ve dropped from the displayed figures.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republican-party-for-incredibly-hypocrisy-regarding-taxes/593639/163 "2011-08-25T19:45:43Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> All you’re saying is that the rich have the power to try to fight being taxed

Please try to keep up with the class. The topic under discussion is a tax increase on the first $100k-ish of income. The issue, thus, is the use of political power to insure that other people pay for government services.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republican-party-for-incredibly-hypocrisy-regarding-taxes/593639/164 "2011-08-25T19:58:29Z")

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No, there are many issues under discussion in this thread, including the one to which my answer was appropriate.

Perhaps if you hadn’t been so far ahead of the rest of the class you would have known that. :rolleyes:

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